@vit
Succession? bah, no need to worry about that! Celestia, Beloved by all, will show them the way! have not worries, everything will turn out fine, i am sure of it! Insha’Cellah!
Speaking of rocks, a Baetylus is a black stone believed to be a symbol of, and gift from the gods; as they were pieces of meteorites. They were symbols of worship in Greece and Carthage, came to Rome with the introduction of Sol Invictus, and some even rest in the Kaaba in Mecca. The Baetylus divine status came from it be a gemstone, and during such times, gems were seen as the intersection of life/spirit and the inanimate material world. It’s divine value coming from the overall rarity of gems, being one of the few objects you could clearly see your reflection, and that it fell from the sky as a ‘sign of the gods’. Maud is right, rocks are cool.
@Astrohippus23
And not one of those inventions came from the Quran. Any effort to claim as much is disingenuous. When you separate a religion from a race, there is little ambiguity.
@Background Pony #B966
Read a history book. Being the aggressor in a conflict is usually distasteful. The only pro-crusades stuff I’ve seen is from medieval strategy game communities memeing it up in a friendly “my favorite civ is better than your favorite civ” rivalry. Look up Sabaton songs like Price of a Mile, Great War, End of the War to End All Wars, Gallipoli, and Lifetime of War if you want to learn about the actual horrors of war.
“Young men are dying
they pay the price.
Oh how they suffer,
So tell me, what’s the price of a mile?”
–Price of a Mile
“There is no enemy; there is no victory.
Only boys who lost their lives in the sand.”
–Gallipoli
“Where is this greatness we’ve been told?
Is this the lies that we’ve been sold?”
–Great War
“November 11th settling the score,
From fifteen to twenty million.
Almost half of the dead civilian.”
–End of the War to End All Wars
“Who’ll find a way
To live one more day
Through decades of war?
It spreads like disease,
There’s no sign of peace.
Religion and greed
Caused millions to bleed.
Three decades of war.”
–A Lifetime of War
Don’t think politicians playing chess with young men’s lives is something honorable to celebrate. It should be standard practice imo for politicians’ families to be on the front lines in offensive wars. Even a defensive war comes at a heavy price, and though they must be fought, they wouldn’t be necessary if the aggressor had just stayed home. And if you still believe aggressors in religious wars are defensible, I have another Sabaton song for you.
Bro, quoting Sabaton songs as a way to learn history is cringe. Read a book. The Crusades by Thomas Asbridge is a decent place to start. Not necessarily disagreeing with your point but seriously.
@Background Pony #B966
Read a history book. Being the aggressor in a conflict is usually distasteful. The only pro-crusades stuff I’ve seen is from medieval strategy game communities memeing it up in a friendly “my favorite civ is better than your favorite civ” rivalry. Look up Sabaton songs like Price of a Mile, Great War, End of the War to End All Wars, Gallipoli, and Lifetime of War if you want to learn about the actual horrors of war.
“Young men are dying
they pay the price.
Oh how they suffer,
So tell me, what’s the price of a mile?”
–Price of a Mile
“There is no enemy; there is no victory.
Only boys who lost their lives in the sand.”
–Gallipoli
“Where is this greatness we’ve been told?
Is this the lies that we’ve been sold?”
–Great War
“November 11th settling the score,
From fifteen to twenty million.
Almost half of the dead civilian.”
–End of the War to End All Wars
“Who’ll find a way
To live one more day
Through decades of war?
It spreads like disease,
There’s no sign of peace.
Religion and greed
Caused millions to bleed.
Three decades of war.”
–A Lifetime of War
Don’t think politicians playing chess with young men’s lives is something honorable to celebrate. It should be standard practice imo for politicians’ families to be on the front lines in offensive wars. Even a defensive war comes at a heavy price, and though they must be fought, they wouldn’t be necessary if the aggressor had just stayed home. And if you still believe aggressors in religious wars are defensible, I have another Sabaton song for you.
@Background Pony #9B01
Read a book. The Crusades were morally justified. There’s a reason why millennials love it. An entire generation of avid crusades fans. There’s a reason why Faust calld the CMC the crusaders.
@Astrohippus23
They themselves said they copied and preserved, but invented nothing. Inventing and discovering is a gharbee thing. Read a book.
@Background Pony #D982
And pagans did the gladiatorial arenas, and Christians did the Crusades (Christian speaking), and atheist Marxists did the Soviet anti-Christian and anti-Islam atrocities. This may genuinely surprise you, but bad people are everywhere.
Could have reported, but I choose to educate. Hope you see this before both our comments get nuked.
that depends if you’re a Sunn’y or a T’iya
Succession? bah, no need to worry about that! Celestia, Beloved by all, will show them the way! have not worries, everything will turn out fine, i am sure of it! Insha’Cellah!
Just 2 questions. Who were Moham-Maud’s spouses and who were her successors?
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And not one of those inventions came from the Quran. Any effort to claim as much is disingenuous. When you separate a religion from a race, there is little ambiguity.
What a name for a gray horse!
Then we clearly have different definitions of cringe. Have a nice day.
Bro, quoting Sabaton songs as a way to learn history is cringe. Read a book. The Crusades by Thomas Asbridge is a decent place to start. Not necessarily disagreeing with your point but seriously.
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Read a history book. Being the aggressor in a conflict is usually distasteful. The only pro-crusades stuff I’ve seen is from medieval strategy game communities memeing it up in a friendly “my favorite civ is better than your favorite civ” rivalry. Look up Sabaton songs like Price of a Mile, Great War, End of the War to End All Wars, Gallipoli, and Lifetime of War if you want to learn about the actual horrors of war.
“Young men are dying
they pay the price.
Oh how they suffer,
So tell me, what’s the price of a mile?”
–Price of a Mile
“There is no enemy; there is no victory.
Only boys who lost their lives in the sand.”
–Gallipoli
“Where is this greatness we’ve been told?
Is this the lies that we’ve been sold?”
–Great War
“November 11th settling the score,
From fifteen to twenty million.
Almost half of the dead civilian.”
–End of the War to End All Wars
“Who’ll find a way
To live one more day
Through decades of war?
It spreads like disease,
There’s no sign of peace.
Religion and greed
Caused millions to bleed.
Three decades of war.”
–A Lifetime of War
Don’t think politicians playing chess with young men’s lives is something honorable to celebrate. It should be standard practice imo for politicians’ families to be on the front lines in offensive wars. Even a defensive war comes at a heavy price, and though they must be fought, they wouldn’t be necessary if the aggressor had just stayed home. And if you still believe aggressors in religious wars are defensible, I have another Sabaton song for you.
I don’t think the intent of the artist is to belittle Muslims.
Read a book. The Crusades were morally justified. There’s a reason why millennials love it. An entire generation of avid crusades fans. There’s a reason why Faust calld the CMC the crusaders.
@Astrohippus23
They themselves said they copied and preserved, but invented nothing. Inventing and discovering is a gharbee thing. Read a book.
They also gave us guitars, algebra, clinical drug trials, coffee, kerosene lamps, fountain pens… Shall I go on?
Haj/10
@Background Pony #B966
neat!
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And pagans did the gladiatorial arenas, and Christians did the Crusades (Christian speaking), and atheist Marxists did the Soviet anti-Christian and anti-Islam atrocities. This may genuinely surprise you, but bad people are everywhere.
Could have reported, but I choose to educate. Hope you see this before both our comments get nuked.