@Crayv
Send them to Australia?
Imagine how that place looks in their Earth! Radscorpions? Radroaches? Fukk dat noize!
Radcrabs, Radsnakes, and RADSTING TREES
@Crayv
Shit is a natural superconductor with enough of a magnetic field to float mountains. You do not live on a planet with MOUNTAINS of stuff like this without SOMETHING going down.
@Dawn Blast
I’m sure some exotic material like that is toxic as all hell.
I would also like for the blue cat people to see the scary side of nature. Let them feel the effects of a killer plague or a cordyceps fungus . Something a technologically advanced race that has access to FTL travel would have no problem curing.
@TheAbridgenator
Nah. I’d rather see a sequel where it turns out, Unobtainium is the equivalently of Cancerous Tumors on their planet, and that thanks to their idiocy, the only folks capable of removing it are Gone.
Good points. And I don’t have recycling in my town (Which I might be able to help change) but that doesn’t mean that I have to go and buy plastic just to (In a sense) Throw it in the ocean and clog up the ecosystem. Why not stock up on glass jars and such, And buy locally? It doesn’t make sense to me to go buying things that are out-of-season anyway; Plants grow in specific weather conditions for good reason. Do you see people in sub-zero weather conditions eating Watermelon if they care to not get a cold?
I’m starting to think of that American Indian proverb which was like “Only when the last river has run dry, Only when the last tree has died will you people realize you cannot eat money.” (Throwing copper or iron at a tree won’t make it fruit sooner.)
Hey, Who’s up for some energy-reduction methods? There’s a website titled “Ecomodder” And there’s also “Ecorenovator”, Both are related sites; One’s devoted to getting higher MPG in cars, The other is about homes. “CleanMPG” and Jeff Yeager’s “CheapLifeChannel” on Youtube may also help. On a rather amusing but still very real level, Who needs both a zero-turn lawnmower and a treill? People can go get low-maintenance reel-lawnmowers; They’re much cheaper, Take no gasoline and people will get exercise easily with them!
None of this will come to see the sunlight though, Unless one goes out and does it. And why not do it? Why make up reasons to not do it? I must keep this in mind myself as I’m prone to mess it up if I don’t do it.
@That one guy….
’cuse me monsieur inquisitor, I thought the point of the invasion was to capture the planet. >_>
Plus I want to breed miniature versions of the skelepanther-things as pets for children!
And think of all the exotic foods and meats to be harvested for the International Gourmet Organization! Those alone could bring a heftier profit than those stupid tree rocks!
@BarryFromMars
Recycling would help more, really. Trees come back. Fossil fuels don’t. Just look at all the plastic crap in supermarkets, and recall like only 4% of people that buy them will actually put them in the right place.
Even in societies that take it seriously it’s only around 25-30%.
Need to bring back the RRR commercials from the 50s and 60s when hippies got people to give a shit about doing that sort of thing. And some Indians. Crying indians always works.
Amusingly the fact it saves money has never been enough to entice even the purest capitalist. People are just fuggin lazy before they’re greedy.
@That one guy….
They wouldn’t even need to go that far. They obviously have satellite imagery. One single Hades in their midst during Jake’s retarded war speech would have blasted them away with no effort at all. You’d have at most like 20 or 30 left. Colonel Miles Quaritch: Great hero, terrible commander. Not to mention graduate of the Stormtrooper Academy. Never send an American to do a German’s job.
I was the “Background Pony” talking of the humans raping the land. And in short, I can’t say I’m all that smart about things like this but it would be nice if in real life people would have more respect for nature - Just if we had a “Plant a tree day” every year or something like that, That would help the planet. It’s many small things that help.
I also have to say it sounds as if I was attempting to justify killing. In short, “Thou Shalt Not Kill” Is still written in Bibles but even the KJV is still over 1,000 years younger than when the books that are in it were written so for all I know there could be some mistranslations here and there.
And taking back what I said earlier, Now I don’t consider turning one’s back to be a good thing. Turning away from harming others, Sure - That’s fine as far as I can see but that’s not quite what this movie was about. I’d comment more but must go now.
@That one guy….
Like I said in my rant they were basically fighting like it was space Vietnam even though they could have easily just dropped rocks from orbit.
Another thing that bothered me….How the flying FUCK…Can a tribe of cat-indians fend off a massive army of Highly trained, technologicly superior Troops? And why are there no sleeves on the Battle Armor of the Marines? And why the fuck are they so piss-poor in combat? The US army TODAY can kick the cat-peoples asses.
What ever happened to just Carpet Bombing the area with Incendiarys then just sending in TANKS and GROUND TROOPS to clean up? And speaking of which…They also seemed to lack Armored Vehicles and proper Air .
Incoming rant as to why I think this movie is bad bad bad.
First off the main character basically betrayed everyone at some point in the movie. Early on he goes against the science people by going behind their backs to the military guy. He betrayed the cat people by telling them jack and shit as to why the humans were there. He then also betrayed the military guy by leading a uprising against the humans. He was the reason that war started. He said that the cat people wouldn’t be interested in anything the humans have… really? They sometimes have wars with other tribes I’m sure they wouldn’t mind something with a bit more punch than an arrow. I guess the movie was called Avatar because the main character acts like some people do with their avatars on the internet… act like total dickwads.
Also the leading that war was a terrible idea. At that point the humans were going to mine their space rocks and that was pretty much it. In that war entire tribes were wiped out.
Another thing I wonder is why is a race with FTL technology using Vietnam era weaponry? Their space helicopters had people shooting out of the open doors with rifles. Now don’t give me that fog static stuff interfering with radar. We have weapons today that use cameras that track based on images. They could have easily had gun turrets that would automatically fire on anything that looks like a cat person. Not to mention they were going to bomb that one christmas tree by dropping explosives out of the back of a plane. Couldn’t they just have hurled a meteor at it?
Then there is the fact that nothing on the planet makes sense. The cat people are really tall because of the low gravity but for some reason have some sorta super reinforced skeleton for no reason. As long as the humans kept up their strength training to survive 1g vs whatever that planet has they should have been able to break those cat people in two. Also the cat people can swim despite having those super heavy and dense skeletons (a lot of apes can’t swim because their skeletons are too dense so they sink).
The way the weapons work also made little sense. The creatures on the planet were nearly invulnerable to bullets but the cat people arrows could harm them. Then the space helicopters had arrows harmless bounce off their windshields but bullets would go right through.
Another thing is why did every creature on that planet have a USB port built into their heads so the cat people could “connect with nature”? Why would evolution ever take that course?
I could go on a bit more but it is late and I have other things to do.
TLDR: The movie was bad because it was an overused story, nothing on the planet made sense, and the main character was a moron.
@Background Pony
James Cameron’s primary mistake in this setup was that, in all instances of native relocation and slaughter there was no reasoning or attempts at serious negotiation, and the reasons for doing so were meaningless. In this instance, they’re not seeking lebensraum, they’re seeking the means to ensure the SURVIVAL OF THEIR SPECIES. The fact that the Na’vi are native God-Mode Sue Cat-Elves doesn’t mitigate that fact. And, again, Jake would not have even CONSIDERED betraying his people if not for his legs and receiving cat-nooky.
And from a metatextual perspective the Na’vi were obnoxious Chakotay-style Indian stereotypes who inspired more annoyance than pity. I want to see a sequel where they get jumped by the Shadows from Babylon 5 cuz they think they’re a Vorlon experiment gone haywire.
The humans were going around raping the land and murdering the natives, Not planting any trees but destroying them. Is changing his species and turning his back an issue? They can’t eat the money that they love so much.
Send them to Australia?
Imagine how that place looks in their Earth! Radscorpions? Radroaches? Fukk dat noize!
Radcrabs, Radsnakes, and RADSTING TREES
Shit is a natural superconductor with enough of a magnetic field to float mountains. You do not live on a planet with MOUNTAINS of stuff like this without SOMETHING going down.
A fictional movie with Humans and Navi working together instead of being dumb and greedy; That’s a thought.
I’m sure some exotic material like that is toxic as all hell.
I would also like for the blue cat people to see the scary side of nature. Let them feel the effects of a killer plague or a cordyceps fungus . Something a technologically advanced race that has access to FTL travel would have no problem curing.
Nah. I’d rather see a sequel where it turns out, Unobtainium is the equivalently of Cancerous Tumors on their planet, and that thanks to their idiocy, the only folks capable of removing it are Gone.
That’s still a blunder in my books
That was less a blunder and more of an exercise in how a movie is not supposed to work. XD
How about the OTHER Avatar movie?
What he/she said
Good points. And I don’t have recycling in my town (Which I might be able to help change) but that doesn’t mean that I have to go and buy plastic just to (In a sense) Throw it in the ocean and clog up the ecosystem. Why not stock up on glass jars and such, And buy locally? It doesn’t make sense to me to go buying things that are out-of-season anyway; Plants grow in specific weather conditions for good reason. Do you see people in sub-zero weather conditions eating Watermelon if they care to not get a cold?
I’m starting to think of that American Indian proverb which was like “Only when the last river has run dry, Only when the last tree has died will you people realize you cannot eat money.” (Throwing copper or iron at a tree won’t make it fruit sooner.)
Hey, Who’s up for some energy-reduction methods? There’s a website titled “Ecomodder” And there’s also “Ecorenovator”, Both are related sites; One’s devoted to getting higher MPG in cars, The other is about homes. “CleanMPG” and Jeff Yeager’s “CheapLifeChannel” on Youtube may also help. On a rather amusing but still very real level, Who needs both a zero-turn lawnmower and a treill? People can go get low-maintenance reel-lawnmowers; They’re much cheaper, Take no gasoline and people will get exercise easily with them!
None of this will come to see the sunlight though, Unless one goes out and does it. And why not do it? Why make up reasons to not do it? I must keep this in mind myself as I’m prone to mess it up if I don’t do it.
The irony being that, compared to the Shadowcrabs, the Navi bird-planes really DO have shitty gas mileage. XD
“I’d buy that for a dollar!”
’cuse me monsieur inquisitor, I thought the point of the invasion was to capture the planet. >_>
Plus I want to breed miniature versions of the skelepanther-things as pets for children!
And think of all the exotic foods and meats to be harvested for the International Gourmet Organization! Those alone could bring a heftier profit than those stupid tree rocks!
No, no, no….You never send a German to do an Inquisitors job….
Recycling would help more, really. Trees come back. Fossil fuels don’t. Just look at all the plastic crap in supermarkets, and recall like only 4% of people that buy them will actually put them in the right place.
Even in societies that take it seriously it’s only around 25-30%.
Need to bring back the RRR commercials from the 50s and 60s when hippies got people to give a shit about doing that sort of thing. And some Indians. Crying indians always works.
Amusingly the fact it saves money has never been enough to entice even the purest capitalist. People are just fuggin lazy before they’re greedy.
@That one guy….
They wouldn’t even need to go that far. They obviously have satellite imagery. One single Hades in their midst during Jake’s retarded war speech would have blasted them away with no effort at all. You’d have at most like 20 or 30 left. Colonel Miles Quaritch: Great hero, terrible commander. Not to mention graduate of the Stormtrooper Academy.
Never send an American to do a German’s job.
I also have to say it sounds as if I was attempting to justify killing. In short, “Thou Shalt Not Kill” Is still written in Bibles but even the KJV is still over 1,000 years younger than when the books that are in it were written so for all I know there could be some mistranslations here and there.
And taking back what I said earlier, Now I don’t consider turning one’s back to be a good thing. Turning away from harming others, Sure - That’s fine as far as I can see but that’s not quite what this movie was about. I’d comment more but must go now.
Like I said in my rant they were basically fighting like it was space Vietnam even though they could have easily just dropped rocks from orbit.
What ever happened to just Carpet Bombing the area with Incendiarys then just sending in TANKS and GROUND TROOPS to clean up? And speaking of which…They also seemed to lack Armored Vehicles and proper Air .
First off the main character basically betrayed everyone at some point in the movie. Early on he goes against the science people by going behind their backs to the military guy. He betrayed the cat people by telling them jack and shit as to why the humans were there. He then also betrayed the military guy by leading a uprising against the humans. He was the reason that war started. He said that the cat people wouldn’t be interested in anything the humans have… really? They sometimes have wars with other tribes I’m sure they wouldn’t mind something with a bit more punch than an arrow. I guess the movie was called Avatar because the main character acts like some people do with their avatars on the internet… act like total dickwads.
Also the leading that war was a terrible idea. At that point the humans were going to mine their space rocks and that was pretty much it. In that war entire tribes were wiped out.
Another thing I wonder is why is a race with FTL technology using Vietnam era weaponry? Their space helicopters had people shooting out of the open doors with rifles. Now don’t give me that fog static stuff interfering with radar. We have weapons today that use cameras that track based on images. They could have easily had gun turrets that would automatically fire on anything that looks like a cat person. Not to mention they were going to bomb that one christmas tree by dropping explosives out of the back of a plane. Couldn’t they just have hurled a meteor at it?
Then there is the fact that nothing on the planet makes sense. The cat people are really tall because of the low gravity but for some reason have some sorta super reinforced skeleton for no reason. As long as the humans kept up their strength training to survive 1g vs whatever that planet has they should have been able to break those cat people in two. Also the cat people can swim despite having those super heavy and dense skeletons (a lot of apes can’t swim because their skeletons are too dense so they sink).
The way the weapons work also made little sense. The creatures on the planet were nearly invulnerable to bullets but the cat people arrows could harm them. Then the space helicopters had arrows harmless bounce off their windshields but bullets would go right through.
Another thing is why did every creature on that planet have a USB port built into their heads so the cat people could “connect with nature”? Why would evolution ever take that course?
I could go on a bit more but it is late and I have other things to do.
TLDR: The movie was bad because it was an overused story, nothing on the planet made sense, and the main character was a moron.
James Cameron’s primary mistake in this setup was that, in all instances of native relocation and slaughter there was no reasoning or attempts at serious negotiation, and the reasons for doing so were meaningless. In this instance, they’re not seeking lebensraum, they’re seeking the means to ensure the SURVIVAL OF THEIR SPECIES. The fact that the Na’vi are native God-Mode Sue Cat-Elves doesn’t mitigate that fact. And, again, Jake would not have even CONSIDERED betraying his people if not for his legs and receiving cat-nooky.
And from a metatextual perspective the Na’vi were obnoxious Chakotay-style Indian stereotypes who inspired more annoyance than pity. I want to see a sequel where they get jumped by the Shadows from Babylon 5 cuz they think they’re a Vorlon experiment gone haywire.
They = the humans
The humans were going around raping the land and murdering the natives, Not planting any trees but destroying them. Is changing his species and turning his back an issue? They can’t eat the money that they love so much.
I like that movie.
I hope Ted Turner plays him. CAAAAPTAIN PLAAAANET
Atleast that movie will have something. CAPTAIN PLANET.