@Sinnerpie
I wouldn’t take the critique of an obvious bad-faith actor to heart. Listen more to the people who are serious, and not just rambling like spoiled children.
@rusday
Ah, I stand corrected. Suppose the right term then should be how it put Bab’s death to the forefront. All we had before was a throwaway trophy in the background, but now it’s actually coming up.
@Background Pony #2AA7
Well AJ is technically her family (even if they don’t know it in this timeline)
The cakes saw her like family
And Maud is her blood family
This chapter was about the pain and agony Pinkie’s actions brought upon her family.
Babs seed was a victim and a perfect way to explain how Pinkie used her own family and friends to kill ponies and then feed them to other.
Thank you for the critique, I’ll take it on consideration for the future.
But just the reminder this story is about trauma, not just mystery.
I don’t bother with Stans who can’t handle the fact that people are allowed to have an opinion, but think others aren’t allowed to critique anything.
You keep on writing your little novels on why its good to waste readers time with things we already know, though. It’s hilarious.
literally never said that you weren’t allowed to have an option or voice a critique. you’re allowed to not like things, not liking things is great, I love not liking things. but if you’re going to say that you don’t like something in public you better be able to come up with an actual reason why you don’t like that thing or you’re just spreading negativity pointlessly.
my problem isn’t that you have an option or you’re making a critique. my problem is that your opinion is unsubstantiated and your critique is incoherent.
So either you forgot that Maud was the only one of Pinkie’s family that was interviewed or you did it on purpose.
I can’t decide which is worse.
either the interviews were all a big waste of time that contaied (and I qoute) “nothing important” or there weren’t enough of them and needed, apparently, every single member of of the Pie family to show up.
@Background Pony #B8B8
if anything literally the inverse of a wide puddle. a “wide puddle” would be a story with a lot of plot points that don’t really mean anything to any of the characters or their progression, what we’ve got is a story with relatively few plot points but they impact every character heavily.
and not only did you try to cherry pick one piece of “non-useful” information, for some reason (which wouldn’t have proved anything if it wasn’t just wrong). you also ended up using one of the most heartbreaking lines in the whole comic so far as your example.
why even read this comic– heck, why even consume fiction in general if you don’t care about how the events of the story effect the characters?
@Background Pony #C125
well, technically we already knew Babs was dead from way back in Chapter 2. her scalp is among the trophies that Luna sees when entering the basment to find Twilight. everything else is pretty spot-on, though.
I also want to add on to the point about Luna being thrown off by Pinkie’s demeanor, Luna’s not just an immortal with probably thousands of years under her belt, but she also regularly visits others dreams… so, what Pinkie did Luna likely hasn’t even seen anyone even imagine before.
All that stuff about how she covered up the disappearances of her victims and the reactions of her family and friends to her actions must of flew right over your head. It’s people like you that make artists not want to do stuff like this.
@Background Pony #2AA7
We learned that Babs was one of her victims. We learned that Pinkie actively interrupts the mail and forges letters. We learned that Pinkie bakes ponies into things other than cupcakes. We learned she isn’t above feeding her victims to their families and her friends. We learned how she disposes of excess bodyparts. We learned the mindset she used to tell herself this was all justified. We learned how various characters reacted to her actions and how her actions affected the broader world. We learned that Luna is investigating this matter personally. We learned that Luna lied to Pinkie about Rainbow still being alive. We learned that she (probably) didn’t kill the Baby Cakes. We learned that Twilight is entirely indisposed because of the situation - we haven’t really seen her since things really hit the fan. We see that Pinkie’s twisted mindset even unsettles an immortal alicorn, who has likely lived thousands of years. We learned thay she actively seems to be faking cheer, meaning this is less and less likely to be mind control ot even a split personality. We may even have a glimpse into how she chooses targets, given that it’s implied Babs standing up to Diamond and Silver was the catalyst for her being chosen. Shame you didn’t learn any of that.
@Background Pony #B8B8
it’s not “reasonable critique”, it’s a complete misunderstanding of basic story structure. if they think that this chapter contained nothing important they’re just being indignant, or they have an extremely narrow view of what’s “important”.
in this chapter we and/or the characters have learned 1)the nature of Pinkie’s crimes and the lengths she went to cover them up 2)how her crimes have affected both her families (the Cakes included) and the families of a victim 3)Pinkie’s internal reasoning for commiting the crimes (assuming she’s telling the truth). if someone thinks none of all of that was “important” I’ve no idea why they’ve taken to reading this comic.
honestly, the only way I could see them really thinking like this would be because they literally only care about Rainbow Dash and every other character could just kick rocks.
@Anon-a-Miss
I mean, Luna didn’t say she disappeared while she was in Ponyville, but rather that she disappeared after a trip to Ponyville. Pinkie probably went to get her. And if I had to guess, this was very, very recent, since I imagine the letter Pinkie intercepted was related to Babs, if the foreshadowing of her eating an apple while taking it from Post was any indication.
How did Pinkie manage to kidnap her? Did she sneak onto the train? Then how did she manages to get her without anyone in the cart noticing and how did she get the body back to Ponyville?
@Unknown151601
Fair; a complete comic could be compared to a movie, but a show is probably a better comparison for individual chapters. And even in that case, it takes well over 4 months to make a single episode - everything I’m finding says 6 to 10 months per episode. And that’s someone’s full time job, not a comic they’re drawing for the funzies. Most shows are in production for a good long while before they’re released - especially animations. But in any case, my argument was less about the length of the project itself, but the time it takes and the setup the story requires.
In both movies and shows, it’s the same.
There are slower episodes, built around preparing the story for the greater narrative, episodes that are less beloved. Amphibia, Gravity Falls, Owl House, and Steven Universe are universally (Hah!) less popular in their first seasons, but spike once the real story gets going. This is in part due to the more episodic nature of those earlier episodes, but my point still stands, as it established characters, personalities, history, and motivations. This chapter did that same thing.
Credit should be given where credit is due - this did a fantastical job of building mystery, solidifying Pinkie’s impact on those around her and the world, showing the reactions of those closest to her, and even confirming other things that we could assume to have happened. It’s got really solid writing.
@Background Pony #2AA7
Just block the comic’s tag already if all you’re going to do is shit on the artist’s efforts. This comic has been nothing but fantastic from the moment it started. We’re all sick of hearing this kind of comment.
@Background Pony #8A8B
Yeah, things were revealed, but they don’t seem to be that important. And I think he means plot-wise compared to other chapters, nothing really happened. And you can’t even compare it to slow-paced movies, really.
Not badgering, it’s a reasonable critique, that the author doesn’t have to follow anyway.
@Background Pony #2AA7
But they do take over 4 months to make. Would you like them to release the comic like they do a movie and not publish it until it’s entirely finished? Take a year or so to write the whole thing out? Be patient and stop badgering the artist to do things your way and not theirs. It’s way easier and far more likely to improve your life than the latter.
@Background Pony #2AA7
Have you ever watched a movie? There is always a lull to establish the setting, the conflict, build tension, and prepare the viewer for what’s to come. That is similar to this. It’s writing 101; the calm before the storm. Plenty of information was given; it’s just not flashy enough for some people.
Okay, now the bait is just getting pathetic, man.
I wouldn’t take the critique of an obvious bad-faith actor to heart. Listen more to the people who are serious, and not just rambling like spoiled children.
Ah, I stand corrected. Suppose the right term then should be how it put Bab’s death to the forefront. All we had before was a throwaway trophy in the background, but now it’s actually coming up.
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Well AJ is technically her family (even if they don’t know it in this timeline)
The cakes saw her like family
And Maud is her blood family
This chapter was about the pain and agony Pinkie’s actions brought upon her family.
Babs seed was a victim and a perfect way to explain how Pinkie used her own family and friends to kill ponies and then feed them to other.
Thank you for the critique, I’ll take it on consideration for the future.
But just the reminder this story is about trauma, not just mystery.
So either you forgot that Maud was the only one of Pinkie’s family that was interviewed or you did it on purpose.
It’s not that deep man.
if anything literally the inverse of a wide puddle. a “wide puddle” would be a story with a lot of plot points that don’t really mean anything to any of the characters or their progression, what we’ve got is a story with relatively few plot points but they impact every character heavily.
literally incomprehensible take. golly, dude.
well, technically we already knew Babs was dead from way back in Chapter 2. her scalp is among the trophies that Luna sees when entering the basment to find Twilight. everything else is pretty spot-on, though.
4chan-tier troll response. Time to move on everyone.
We learned that Babs was one of her victims. We learned that Pinkie actively interrupts the mail and forges letters. We learned that Pinkie bakes ponies into things other than cupcakes. We learned she isn’t above feeding her victims to their families and her friends. We learned how she disposes of excess bodyparts. We learned the mindset she used to tell herself this was all justified. We learned how various characters reacted to her actions and how her actions affected the broader world. We learned that Luna is investigating this matter personally. We learned that Luna lied to Pinkie about Rainbow still being alive. We learned that she (probably) didn’t kill the Baby Cakes. We learned that Twilight is entirely indisposed because of the situation - we haven’t really seen her since things really hit the fan. We see that Pinkie’s twisted mindset even unsettles an immortal alicorn, who has likely lived thousands of years. We learned thay she actively seems to be faking cheer, meaning this is less and less likely to be mind control ot even a split personality. We may even have a glimpse into how she chooses targets, given that it’s implied Babs standing up to Diamond and Silver was the catalyst for her being chosen. Shame you didn’t learn any of that.
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It doesn’t drive the plot. All of these don’t go any deeper than that, like a wide puddle.
it’s not “reasonable critique”, it’s a complete misunderstanding of basic story structure. if they think that this chapter contained nothing important they’re just being indignant, or they have an extremely narrow view of what’s “important”.
Edited
I mean, Luna didn’t say she disappeared while she was in Ponyville, but rather that she disappeared after a trip to Ponyville. Pinkie probably went to get her. And if I had to guess, this was very, very recent, since I imagine the letter Pinkie intercepted was related to Babs, if the foreshadowing of her eating an apple while taking it from Post was any indication.
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I agree.
Fair; a complete comic could be compared to a movie, but a show is probably a better comparison for individual chapters. And even in that case, it takes well over 4 months to make a single episode - everything I’m finding says 6 to 10 months per episode. And that’s someone’s full time job, not a comic they’re drawing for the funzies. Most shows are in production for a good long while before they’re released - especially animations. But in any case, my argument was less about the length of the project itself, but the time it takes and the setup the story requires.
Edited
Just block the comic’s tag already if all you’re going to do is shit on the artist’s efforts. This comic has been nothing but fantastic from the moment it started. We’re all sick of hearing this kind of comment.
Edited
Yeah, things were revealed, but they don’t seem to be that important. And I think he means plot-wise compared to other chapters, nothing really happened. And you can’t even compare it to slow-paced movies, really.
Not badgering, it’s a reasonable critique, that the author doesn’t have to follow anyway.
A better example would be a show.
But they do take over 4 months to make. Would you like them to release the comic like they do a movie and not publish it until it’s entirely finished? Take a year or so to write the whole thing out? Be patient and stop badgering the artist to do things your way and not theirs. It’s way easier and far more likely to improve your life than the latter.
Movies don’t take over four months to finish watching.
Have you ever watched a movie? There is always a lull to establish the setting, the conflict, build tension, and prepare the viewer for what’s to come. That is similar to this. It’s writing 101; the calm before the storm. Plenty of information was given; it’s just not flashy enough for some people.