You quoted it to me as rule 1, so I called it rule 1. What kind of stupid bait-and-switch is this?
“Criticism is welcome and encouraged when done so in a constructive and helpful manner. However, using baseless, unconstructive criticism as a veil for the purpose of insulting or attacking an image and/or an artist is not allowed.”
I agree with this rule, but there are some people here who seem to have serious issues telling the difference between constructive criticism (or even compliments, in some cases) and insults.
I said some people think freedom of speech is a fundamental right, not that this site shouldn’t do anything about trolls. Jesus christ, why the hell does half this site assume people are trying to start a fight whenever they express their opinion?
@Speedyblupi
let me clear this out to you so you understand what the fuck it is you’re even talking about.
first thing to clear, that’s not rule 1, That was the old rule 1, when rules weren’t swapped to be part of the same thing and the same kind of rule was placed into rules explaining that were two things in nature, e.g., old rule one was half about artist copyright and half about rule #0, where as, the “new” rule 1 is:
_Derpibooru is a website dedicated to fanart of MLP:FiM. Without the thousands of artists creating such fan art, we would not have much of a site at all. Therefore, it is important to always respect the wishes of the artists regarding their artwork.
Do not images that have been altered in a way that the artist may not appreciate. This may include (but is not limited to) removing an artist’s signature and/or watermark, recoloring an image to insert or remove an OC, and fetish edits.
Do not artwork that has not been publicly released, or is intended to remain private or restricted access, without permission from the artist who made it. This includes paid content, such as Patreon-only images or images from an art pack or folio.
Images that have been released on a pay-what-you-want scheme, as well as images from a “free version” of a paid art pack, must be released for at least one week (seven days) before they may be posted on this site. Then, only content which can be obtained for free may be posted.
Do not images from artists who are on our Do-Not-Post (DNP) List, or who have otherwise publicly made a clear and visible statement that they do not wish for their content to be on this website.
Do not images that contain watermarks or ments for sites that promote content theft, sharing of paid-only images, or sharing of images without providing reasonable attribution to the artists who made them. Likewise, do not share links to such sites either.
All edits of an original image not made by the original artist should be tagged as “edit”, and preferably should be made with the artist’s permission._
TL:DR; Respect artists’ copyright.
what you are talking about is something else entirely, as stated, it used to be part of rule #1 for no rhyme or reason, but now it was moved into rule #0, where it belongs, because all personal attacks, harassment and insults belong together and are the same done to any individual.
now, let’s read rule #0 again.
_This is the most important rule.
MLP:FiM is about sharing, friendship, and understanding. Don’t drag the site down into flamewars and angst – keep it constructive and positive.
Attempts to antagonize others will not be tolerated.
Do not troll, attack, insult, name-call, or otherwise try to intentionally antagonize another person or group of people. This includes making racial, sexual, homophobic, or otherwise demeaning slurs, or posting similarly abusive content.
Criticism is welcome and encouraged when done so in a constructive and helpful manner. However, using baseless, unconstructive criticism as a veil for the purpose of insulting or attacking an image and/or an artist is not allowed.
This rule applies to all images, comments, forum posts, and private messages, along with all other interactions you may make on this website._
What I find especially appalling here is this idea that negative opinions should be widely accepted, regardless if they’re helpful or not, which is basically an insane troll’s logic.. The fact of the matter is, any negative connotation without any good reason of being there, shouldn’t be accepted, this is why the site already offers other alternatives to things/themes/art you may not like, such as rule #4, because without their images, would there even be a derpibooru out here? so, please learn to be more appreciative of artists for their contribution to the community, this is not an absolute statement, meaning you don’t have to love and be all kisses with every artist including the ones you don’t like, but the general gist of this is, don’t condemn the other 99.9% of artists just because of a few rotten ones, just as we don’t condemn the other 99.9% of s in the community for a few nuisances.
last thing to note here, in addition to what you’ve been suggesting here about treating “some” artists with the respect they’re due, if we lived in this reality you’re describing, you’d be banned right now forever, as we (staff) would have exceedingly strong biases against all the s and viewers out here, not just the troublemakers, but literally all of them, considering you nothing more than worthless trash. Not saying some of us don’t have some biases against some s, like you for example seem to imply you have some biases against some artists, which is also fine in my book, just so long as you don’t uselessly enact upon a childish tirade of artist witch hunts, but we do keep that as much to a minimum as much as is humanly possible. We’re not saints here after all, we’re all only human and we all expect everyone else to be human too and not animals.
I don’t think those rule 1 is worth anything. Someone somewhere in the world will think you’re an ass, no matter who you are. It’s too subjective to be practical.
yeah, but other people in the world don’t matter. The people here matter, especially the people who interpret and enforce the rules, which is to say, us.
I really don’t care if people think I’m an ass. I’d rather just concentrate on being right.
@toxicitzi
I don’t think those rule 1 is worth anything. Someone somewhere in the world will think you’re an ass, no matter who you are. It’s too subjective to be practical.
I really don’t care if people think I’m an ass. I’d rather just concentrate on being right.
Also that the rules of the site exist for a the purpose of making this site and community work, not as an end in themselves - basically, don’t forget rule #n
@Blissey1
I read a vore fic out of curiosity recently. It was pretty harmless, but even so, I was kind of disturbed by the way everything was described. I think I’ve just always regarded the thought of being eaten with fear, ever since I was a kid. I probably saw a snake eating a mouse whole as a kid or something and it scared me.
@Speedyblupi
you know an even more important rule that I know and I consider a deep, fundamental law of morality? this thing called a rule of thumb and in order to follow it, you only gotta do this.
step 1, don’t be an ass.
step 2-infinity, don’t ever stop repeating step 1.
step 3-the beyond, the rules of the site. Also, that they’re Rules. There’s rules in other places too and if you break them, you get kicked out, fundamental freedom or not.
@Cordelia Silvershine
Well, I suppose a narrative can crafted around the subject of people being happy to be eaten. Not my thing, but no disrespect. I have plenty of my own kinks.
It’s a really varied field of artwork. ^ w ^ I usually prefer this kind, myself, when everypony’s happy (or at least not scared out of their wits for their lives).
don’t mind if i do
Sure it is.
I meant step 1.
It should still have been obvious what I was talking about in context, though.
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Where? I just reread the entire thread and nowhere was that presented to you as rule #1.
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“first thing to clear, that’s not rule 1”
You quoted it to me as rule 1, so I called it rule 1. What kind of stupid bait-and-switch is this?
“Criticism is welcome and encouraged when done so in a constructive and helpful manner. However, using baseless, unconstructive criticism as a veil for the purpose of insulting or attacking an image and/or an artist is not allowed.”
I agree with this rule, but there are some people here who seem to have serious issues telling the difference between constructive criticism (or even compliments, in some cases) and insults.
I said some people think freedom of speech is a fundamental right, not that this site shouldn’t do anything about trolls. Jesus christ, why the hell does half this site assume people are trying to start a fight whenever they express their opinion?
I like it. :)
don’t worry, just call me Satan’s little helper if you don’t like me doing this so much.
Are we really still on about this?
let me clear this out to you so you understand what the fuck it is you’re even talking about.
first thing to clear, that’s not rule 1, That was the old rule 1, when rules weren’t swapped to be part of the same thing and the same kind of rule was placed into rules explaining that were two things in nature, e.g., old rule one was half about artist copyright and half about rule #0, where as, the “new” rule 1 is:
_Derpibooru is a website dedicated to fanart of MLP:FiM. Without the thousands of artists creating such fan art, we would not have much of a site at all. Therefore, it is important to always respect the wishes of the artists regarding their artwork.
Do not artwork that has not been publicly released, or is intended to remain private or restricted access, without permission from the artist who made it. This includes paid content, such as Patreon-only images or images from an art pack or folio.
Do not images from artists who are on our Do-Not-Post (DNP) List, or who have otherwise publicly made a clear and visible statement that they do not wish for their content to be on this website.
TL:DR; Respect artists’ copyright.
what you are talking about is something else entirely, as stated, it used to be part of rule #1 for no rhyme or reason, but now it was moved into rule #0, where it belongs, because all personal attacks, harassment and insults belong together and are the same done to any individual.
now, let’s read rule #0 again.
_This is the most important rule.
MLP:FiM is about sharing, friendship, and understanding. Don’t drag the site down into flamewars and angst – keep it constructive and positive.
What I find especially appalling here is this idea that negative opinions should be widely accepted, regardless if they’re helpful or not, which is basically an insane troll’s logic.. The fact of the matter is, any negative connotation without any good reason of being there, shouldn’t be accepted, this is why the site already offers other alternatives to things/themes/art you may not like, such as rule #4, because without their images, would there even be a derpibooru out here? so, please learn to be more appreciative of artists for their contribution to the community, this is not an absolute statement, meaning you don’t have to love and be all kisses with every artist including the ones you don’t like, but the general gist of this is, don’t condemn the other 99.9% of artists just because of a few rotten ones, just as we don’t condemn the other 99.9% of s in the community for a few nuisances.
last thing to note here, in addition to what you’ve been suggesting here about treating “some” artists with the respect they’re due, if we lived in this reality you’re describing, you’d be banned right now forever, as we (staff) would have exceedingly strong biases against all the s and viewers out here, not just the troublemakers, but literally all of them, considering you nothing more than worthless trash. Not saying some of us don’t have some biases against some s, like you for example seem to imply you have some biases against some artists, which is also fine in my book, just so long as you don’t uselessly enact upon a childish tirade of artist witch hunts, but we do keep that as much to a minimum as much as is humanly possible. We’re not saints here after all, we’re all only human and we all expect everyone else to be human too and not animals.
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yeah, but other people in the world don’t matter. The people here matter, especially the people who interpret and enforce the rules, which is to say, us.
and let me guess, you’re always right?
you mean the rule you’re forgetting right now?
You are allowed to think whatever you want about someone.
Just don’t inflict your opinions upon the rest of the world.
I don’t think those rule 1 is worth anything. Someone somewhere in the world will think you’re an ass, no matter who you are. It’s too subjective to be practical.
I really don’t care if people think I’m an ass. I’d rather just concentrate on being right.
Also that the rules of the site exist for a the purpose of making this site and community work, not as an end in themselves - basically, don’t forget rule #n
Oh good you’re only a month late. In the real world yes on the internet no.
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I read a vore fic out of curiosity recently. It was pretty harmless, but even so, I was kind of disturbed by the way everything was described. I think I’ve just always regarded the thought of being eaten with fear, ever since I was a kid. I probably saw a snake eating a mouse whole as a kid or something and it scared me.
you know an even more important rule that I know and I consider a deep, fundamental law of morality? this thing called a rule of thumb and in order to follow it, you only gotta do this.
step 1, don’t be an ass.
step 2-infinity, don’t ever stop repeating step 1.
step 3-the beyond, the rules of the site. Also, that they’re Rules. There’s rules in other places too and if you break them, you get kicked out, fundamental freedom or not.
The concept of freedom of speech is not owned by the USA, it’s regarded by many people (including myself) as a fundamental right.
I wrote a fic about exactly that!
fun, clean, happy vore, consensual on all sides, nobody dies~
Well, I suppose a narrative can crafted around the subject of people being happy to be eaten. Not my thing, but no disrespect. I have plenty of my own kinks.
I think you mean fetish :p
but yes, vore is wide and varied
It’s a really varied field of artwork. ^ w ^ I usually prefer this kind, myself, when everypony’s happy (or at least not scared out of their wits for their lives).
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Cool. Thanks.