Unless I’m misunderstanding you that pretty much sums up point.
SOPA and other ideas since haven’t been too terribly popular (toxic, even) because of both the opposition and the fact that enough of the politicians were so skeptical of what they would actually do. These are people who have a lot of responsibility on their shoulders and had BETTER be able to make informed decisions, at least for their own good… though, to be fair, there has to be a number who’s has been purchased by some entity with its own agenda, though it’s not all or nothing, in part because their are so many different ideas out there they would naturally conflict. Even if the worst-case scenario is true they’re not all twiddling their mustaches, wondering how they can screw over the little guy for their own personal gain.
Be skeptical of everything. Even on the Internet, the idea sometimes is to get attention for ad-revenue, even through means such as manipulation. Articles with wording like “the vote that could kill Net Neutrality is up next month” are designed to get hits as it’s sensational. It’s not the same as “the vote that challenges Net Neutrality” or “challenges Title II classification” partially because it doesn’t have the same ring, but also because this is something people care about that could potentially be exploited. Should a vote be cast that might strike down some consumer protections or certain aspects of freedom of expression, it will certainly be challenged and tied up for some time. Even so, limiting and restricting access, either on a whim or through an agreement via cabal of cable industry tycoons and corporate lawyers, would fundamentally break the Internet.
@Cirrus Light
Well, you still gotta drive carefully. All I’m saying is there’s no way the FCC will win this one. Especially since they never won a single bit of these wars.
@Joshua
I’ve never been in a car accident, either, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to start driving recklessly, stop paying attention to traffic lights, etc.
There’s a million analogies in daily life that show how deeply flawed this argument is. But by your logic I guess I don’t need to watch out for pedestrians or practice range safety anymore.
@wayward
I would like to believe all is well, but I’m not so trusting of politicians as to not care to even say anything.
For one, seeing a lot of public stir over something lets them know they’ll find (or opposition) in it.
SOPA was reported on television, with multiple politicians gravely questioning what the goal of it was and how it would perform “surgery on the internet” without being given a clear explanation even afterwards. I’d wager they’re intelligent people and if the goals of a change aren’t super clear, but the objection is (which, objection-wise, that has been pretty well established with this idea) that’s a red flag anybody’s smart enough to see. Whether it’s found in hysteria, right or wrong, is a separate issue.
@Joshua
Does the TV news report on what’s happening that’s important, or what’s entertaining and gets views?
@thatguy
That’s what’s really upsetting. They only have to win once. And we’ve got to win every time.
Damn the two-party system. We are not properly represented by it. We seriously need voting reform to use a system better than First Past the Post. Maine’s done it. Not the best system but still a huge improvement over First Past the Post.
This is how it’ll finally get through. Repeatedly try year after year until people get sick of fighting or believe it’s a given that it will never happen and quit fighting it.
Would you kindly take it easy with this? There’s no longer any net neutrality problems. It HAS happened some time ago this year, but it’s stopped now, and net neutrality is in perfect health.
There is no net neutrality issues right now, kid
the kost recent issue was earlier this year, and it was stopped.
Do some research before making shoddy MS Paint text edits and making yourself look like a fool by posting it.
What’s going on with net neutrality is a lot more complex than “they just want to destroy it”. Title II is the classification under question right now, which part of it contains the rules of Net Neutrality. If you do a web search on Ajit Pai, the FCC’s current chairman, you’ll find he has said, for what it’s worth, he favors a free and open Internet, though Title II is probably not the way to achieve it.
Unless I’m misunderstanding you that pretty much sums up point.
SOPA and other ideas since haven’t been too terribly popular (toxic, even) because of both the opposition and the fact that enough of the politicians were so skeptical of what they would actually do. These are people who have a lot of responsibility on their shoulders and had BETTER be able to make informed decisions, at least for their own good… though, to be fair, there has to be a number who’s has been purchased by some entity with its own agenda, though it’s not all or nothing, in part because their are so many different ideas out there they would naturally conflict. Even if the worst-case scenario is true they’re not all twiddling their mustaches, wondering how they can screw over the little guy for their own personal gain.
Be skeptical of everything. Even on the Internet, the idea sometimes is to get attention for ad-revenue, even through means such as manipulation. Articles with wording like “the vote that could kill Net Neutrality is up next month” are designed to get hits as it’s sensational. It’s not the same as “the vote that challenges Net Neutrality” or “challenges Title II classification” partially because it doesn’t have the same ring, but also because this is something people care about that could potentially be exploited. Should a vote be cast that might strike down some consumer protections or certain aspects of freedom of expression, it will certainly be challenged and tied up for some time. Even so, limiting and restricting access, either on a whim or through an agreement via cabal of cable industry tycoons and corporate lawyers, would fundamentally break the Internet.
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Well, you still gotta drive carefully. All I’m saying is there’s no way the FCC will win this one. Especially since they never won a single bit of these wars.
I’ve never been in a car accident, either, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to start driving recklessly, stop paying attention to traffic lights, etc.
There’s a million analogies in daily life that show how deeply flawed this argument is. But by your logic I guess I don’t need to watch out for pedestrians or practice range safety anymore.
@wayward
I would like to believe all is well, but I’m not so trusting of politicians as to not care to even say anything.
For one, seeing a lot of public stir over something lets them know they’ll find (or opposition) in it.
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SOPA was reported on television, with multiple politicians gravely questioning what the goal of it was and how it would perform “surgery on the internet” without being given a clear explanation even afterwards. I’d wager they’re intelligent people and if the goals of a change aren’t super clear, but the objection is (which, objection-wise, that has been pretty well established with this idea) that’s a red flag anybody’s smart enough to see. Whether it’s found in hysteria, right or wrong, is a separate issue.
What I’m saying is the FCC has never succeeded. Not once.
Lolwut? What are you saying? Don’t listen to who? And you’re kidding, right?
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Don’t listen to him. He’s obviously seen WAY too many internet news, and EVERYONE knows that type of news isn’t true.
Does the TV news report on what’s happening that’s important, or what’s entertaining and gets views?
@thatguy
That’s what’s really upsetting. They only have to win once. And we’ve got to win every time.
Damn the two-party system. We are not properly represented by it. We seriously need voting reform to use a system better than First Past the Post. Maine’s done it. Not the best system but still a huge improvement over First Past the Post.
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This is how it’ll finally get through. Repeatedly try year after year until people get sick of fighting or believe it’s a given that it will never happen and quit fighting it.
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I’ll believe it’ll happen when I see it on the TV news.
But seriously, it is a real issue. Pretending that it isn’t doesn’t make it go away.
state intervention on service providers right to charge their customers according to their own wishes?
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I dunno, seems like all the internet activity and meming worked the last few times.
Yeah, right.
Not true at all, there’s going to be a vote in December that might kill it.
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the kost recent issue was earlier this year, and it was stopped.
Do some research before making shoddy MS Paint text edits and making yourself look like a fool by posting it.