Luster Dawn: You know, speaking of moms, Dad never talks about mine. What was she like? (flashback to Starlight repeatedly kicking Sweetie Belle in the face) Starlight Glimmer: SO WHAT?! YOU THINK HAVING A FRIEND AS AN ALICORN MAKES YOU BETTER THAN ME?! Sweetie Belle: Nooooooooo! Starlight Glimmer: WRONG ANSWER! (cut back to present) Adult Sweetie Belle: …She had a lot to prove.
i hate to see her be powerful as this level in less of years, she be train with Twilight for only a couple of week, is no way she be still level of Power who is a alicorn master level! this is why is make her OP and i hate this!
@Background Pony #A35D
In all honesty we don’t know how much energy it takes to self levitate. We’ve seen weak looking unicorns levitating huge loads and we’ve seen Rarity levitate an entire room. It’s the most basic of magic and even foals can do it apparently. I don’t think it’s not used because it’s difficult, but because unicorns generally can get around fine by walking, and can use other spells to walk on clouds.
@Background Pony #3C09
Though, since they were in Cloudsdale, Starlight was almost constantly using her magic to self-levitate, which takes a lot of magic, so still managing to keep Twilight (who was actually flying) at bay was no small feat.
If the same scenario took place at ground-level, where Starlight wouldn’t have to spend so much energy on just keeping herself afloat, she might’ve actually been able to win.
@Background Pony #F510
If I can post my opinion quickly: Starlight was only able to fight Twilight to a standstill, not an actual win, because Twilightbhad to constantly cast the time travel spell, which weakened her, and would occasionally use energy while in the alternate futures. Plus Starlight wasn’t fighting to beat Twilight, just distract her to prevent the Rainboom.
So basically, Starlight has enough endurance to last a long time against an Alicorn in a drawn out fight, but can never actually win against one because she is simply not strong enough. If they were both at 100% from the start then Twilight would dominate.
I’ll grant you, Starlight wasn’t trying first and foremost to kill, just, you know, to completely fuck over Twilight’s past which would rob her of her destiny. She’d still be alive. But again, it comes down to one of them with rage fueled magic not caring if the other was hurt, and the other just trying to stop a crazed lunatic from destroying history and killing potentially countless ponies in the process. The pony who doesn’t care if she cuts your wing off has a pretty significant advantage.
@Background Pony #E440 @Boulder318
Exactly. If Glim Glam really wanted Twilight dead, she could’ve went back to when Twilight was a filly or a foal or a fetus and killed her then.
Or if she’d wanted Twilight to have never been born at all, she could’ve seduced Night Light or Twilight Velvet before they met and that possibility would be nil.
If Starlight really wanted to kill Twilight, she wouldn’t have bothered to set it up so she’d follow Starlight to the past. Starlight was holding back.
@Background Pony #F510
Starlight wasn’t trying to kill Twilight in either scenario any more than Twilight was trying to kill Starlight.
In The Cutie Map, Starlight was trying to brainwash Twi (as well as the rest of the Mane Six) into ing her village, and she would’ve done it if she’d kept them locked in that shed long enough.
In the Cutie Remark, Starlight was simply trying to stop the Sonic Rainboom that caused all of the Mane Six to get their cutie marks, just to see how it’d fuck with the timeline, and, so far as that goal went, she succeeded several times over.
Plus Twilight was incapable of subduing Starlight either time, which is extremely impressive, considering how Unicorn Twilight was considered a magical prodigy all of her life, and it’s heavily implied that her ascension to an Alicorn made her magic significantly stronger
@Background Pony #A35D
Good one. But seriously, Twilight was trying for takedowns at best, focusing on diplomacy first. The villain always has the advantage in that scenario, because you want them subdued, and they want you dead.
That’s why the Goku Vegeta dynamic doesn’t work with Twilight and Starlight. Goku will happily kick anyone’s ass six ways to sunday, and if he kills you, there’s always dragon balls. Twilight doesn’t have that option. The elements don’t fix dead.
(flashback to Starlight repeatedly kicking Sweetie Belle in the face)
Starlight Glimmer: SO WHAT?! YOU THINK HAVING A FRIEND AS AN ALICORN MAKES YOU BETTER THAN ME?!
Sweetie Belle: Nooooooooo!
Starlight Glimmer: WRONG ANSWER!
(cut back to present)
Adult Sweetie Belle: …She had a lot to prove.
Kinda like Dragon Ball Super’s Universe 6 Saiyans and their stupid tingly backs.
In all honesty we don’t know how much energy it takes to self levitate. We’ve seen weak looking unicorns levitating huge loads and we’ve seen Rarity levitate an entire room. It’s the most basic of magic and even foals can do it apparently. I don’t think it’s not used because it’s difficult, but because unicorns generally can get around fine by walking, and can use other spells to walk on clouds.
Though, since they were in Cloudsdale, Starlight was almost constantly using her magic to self-levitate, which takes a lot of magic, so still managing to keep Twilight (who was actually flying) at bay was no small feat.
If the same scenario took place at ground-level, where Starlight wouldn’t have to spend so much energy on just keeping herself afloat, she might’ve actually been able to win.
@Background Pony #E440
@Background Pony #F510
If I can post my opinion quickly: Starlight was only able to fight Twilight to a standstill, not an actual win, because Twilightbhad to constantly cast the time travel spell, which weakened her, and would occasionally use energy while in the alternate futures. Plus Starlight wasn’t fighting to beat Twilight, just distract her to prevent the Rainboom.
So basically, Starlight has enough endurance to last a long time against an Alicorn in a drawn out fight, but can never actually win against one because she is simply not strong enough. If they were both at 100% from the start then Twilight would dominate.
@Background Pony #E440
@Boulder318
@Background Pony #A35D
I’ll grant you, Starlight wasn’t trying first and foremost to kill, just, you know, to completely fuck over Twilight’s past which would rob her of her destiny. She’d still be alive. But again, it comes down to one of them with rage fueled magic not caring if the other was hurt, and the other just trying to stop a crazed lunatic from destroying history and killing potentially countless ponies in the process. The pony who doesn’t care if she cuts your wing off has a pretty significant advantage.
@Boulder318
Exactly. If Glim Glam really wanted Twilight dead, she could’ve went back to when Twilight was a filly or a foal or a fetus and killed her then.
Or if she’d wanted Twilight to have never been born at all, she could’ve seduced Night Light or Twilight Velvet before they met and that possibility would be nil.
Proves that Starlight wasn’t wholly evil, and there was a redeemable quality there still.
Starlight wasn’t trying to kill Twilight in either scenario any more than Twilight was trying to kill Starlight.
In The Cutie Map, Starlight was trying to brainwash Twi (as well as the rest of the Mane Six) into ing her village, and she would’ve done it if she’d kept them locked in that shed long enough.
In the Cutie Remark, Starlight was simply trying to stop the Sonic Rainboom that caused all of the Mane Six to get their cutie marks, just to see how it’d fuck with the timeline, and, so far as that goal went, she succeeded several times over.
Plus Twilight was incapable of subduing Starlight either time, which is extremely impressive, considering how Unicorn Twilight was considered a magical prodigy all of her life, and it’s heavily implied that her ascension to an Alicorn made her magic significantly stronger
Good one. But seriously, Twilight was trying for takedowns at best, focusing on diplomacy first. The villain always has the advantage in that scenario, because you want them subdued, and they want you dead.
That’s why the Goku Vegeta dynamic doesn’t work with Twilight and Starlight. Goku will happily kick anyone’s ass six ways to sunday, and if he kills you, there’s always dragon balls. Twilight doesn’t have that option. The elements don’t fix dead.