@Silent Wing
Such images are exactly where such issues must be raised as they are usually visited by people who either believe in such propaganda or, on the contrary, who reject it. We won’t see many neutral people here or people who are disinterested and would rather ignore everything you wrote, which means that this is a perfect place to challenge views of people from the opposite camp. Anything else you want to say?
@atalarikt
You are just using straw man fallacy right now. I never said that countries having small or no military are perfect, I said that perfect countries should have small or no military, not vice-versa! These are not symmetric or inter-operable >_>
Why do people start using complete bullshit methods when they are presented with something they don’t like instead of actually responding or disproving it? Is it too hard to accept that what you think might be wrong and you just prefer to bastardize what is said until it makes no sense?
@Silent Wing
Now you are just acting mean and as a bully to protect your views instead of actually participating in a conversation or providing proofs. Also 14,a troll, what next? Keep applying more stereotypes to me, I like it :D
First off, no logical person with a clear head would come to an American image, one particularly touchy for some, and actively chase it with a one-sided view on things. I really don’t particularly care for your activeness, troll. You’re now ignored.
@atalarikt
Don’t feed him. He’s 14, or acts like it (along with many other things I could produce right now but for the sake of him I shall not.), and I don’t feel like explaining to someone that they’re misinformed or otherwise purposeful in their actions of wasting their life concerning the opinions of others for short bursts of pleasure.
Though I could present his location, if HE so desired. I don’t think he will though. Nobody is THAT dumb.
@Silent Wing
Are you really implying that freedom of speech is THE freedom you are all obsessing about and that it was “invented” in USA? The freedom of speech is a by-product of Internet (invented in USA, yes) and modern era and it is present almost in every country around the world. If that is your definition of freedom and all it has to it, then I am truly sorry for you as you know no true freedom.
Also, I am not a troll, just a person who has an outside view on things as I have been a participant to one of false revolutions started by US and saw with my own two eyes how it is done. It is easy to find other people and sources of information ing all I’ve just said, it’s just that most people never bother to look preferring to trust the official version instead.
@Background Pony #3C24
By this logic, wouldn’t that make Indonesia and the Micronesian/Polynesian countries perfect? Because you know, Indonesia’s military isn’t that big, and Micronesian/Polynesian countries don’t have a military at all, from what I know.
@Silent Wing
Internet seems to think that post-USSR countries have no military… let me assure you that it is just a product of US and EU propaganda. They have military comparable to that of Russia and here is only one of demonstrations out of many (if you are willing to look). The fact that they are not willing to play in international spectacles where major world powers play with human lives to achieve their goals doesn’t mean they have no military.
Gootta love how people nowadays compare military as if it was the size of a dick or something. The fact US control freaks are so paranoid that they spend half their budget (that is non-existent budget due to the all-known debt) on military to keep everyone under their foot doesn’t mean they are the best country or right on the matter. Personally I think a perfect country without issues wouldn’t need a large army at all.
@Background Pony #3C24
First off, almost everything you just noted is subjective to your opinion, as is everyone elses. (That’s a freedom right there, by the way. Your freedom of speech, which gives you the ability to think and say what you want, but this is completely your responsibility.)
Next I’m going to rip apart your idea of a proper government being one under no rule, but still having a ruler. This has been proven to fail many times, purely because it invokes the voice into one person rather into many branches that are made to represent the people.
Freedom is a social construct that is comprised out of sensation. If you feel like you’re able to do what you wish, then you are free. If you feel as if you’re restricted, then you are bound.
Let me give you a simple example; I’m not going to let you walk away with such a warped opinion seemingly based on singular voicing. You have the freedom to tell me you don’t believe freedom is possible, which is fine. I have the freedom to explain to you why it is possible, or at the very least mostly possible. This is because one can feel offended and hurt, struck and routed, just from simple words because their willpower is weak and they fear itting they’re wrong. All of us have been there, done that, and the smart don’t wish to be there again.
Though I could be wasting my time with such a troll. So I will mark you as one in my books.
I also love the fact that ISIL actually did attack Beirut just one day prior causing more wounded and casualties and yet all everyone fusses about is (that is despite numerous hints is a false flag as linked below). WAY to be biased people, let’s get more French flags here to show how retarded of a species we are!
@Silent Wing
Is this why the government/s has to kill people (9/11, , mind you, I’m not saying did this, they are merely victims but not of ISIL), start and help organized terrorism (Iraq) and start false revolutions that ruin lives of people (Ukraine) to goad everyone into accepting freedom and constitution impeding laws and acts like Patriot, SOAP, cancelling Tor browser (that’s what they are doing right now using as excuse since they failed to completely bring its privacy down even despite trying for years) and so on? Because apparently it is easier to cause international drama and distract attention of people from real problems rather than actually solve these problems. Oh well, this way they can easily steal money that are spent on war expenses so whatever.
In any case, you do know that America is on the first place by the amount of confidential information thefts and spying WORLDWIDE (both Internet and IRL), yes?
Where exactly are your freedoms? Freedom to chose either of retarded president candidates of whom all options are shit? Freedom to own a gun so a looser can go and do a shooting in a school (go google it up, America is also in the first place by terror acts and shootings, especially shootings just for the sake of shootings… they have more shootings than days of in a year), or freedom to own drugs that destroy your life (and also get you in jail since America is #1 in total number of incarcerated people as well as percentage of citizens in jails)?
Where is the freedom you speak of? All I see is tyranny and pretentious farce so that people wouldn’t notice they are just slaves like they used to be and always will be!
@atalarikt
And I believe the only reason terrorists chose to attack was because of their reputation, sadly. They wouldn’t dare attack US main soil on foot, and Italy would spark A LOT of religious questioning, being close to Vatican City.
Their next attack will either be on Canada or India. Both of these countries are unprepared and they will get a reaction quite quickly. Both are fairly easy to get to, and both have high populations, meaning a higher chance of inside rebels to assist.
I believe the US needs to band together with other countries and unleash a full attack on these terrorist groups. Have it a secret, only known to the leaders of the countries where these terrorists reside, that we push an attack. I don’t know about you, but a rag-tag team of morons isn’t going to do shit against American, Russian, and British MBTs. If that isn’t negotiable, then we ask for the privilege of launching surgical thermobarics. We only need to get within a mile of their hideouts in order to hit them with the shockwave, which is powerful enough to explode your lungs, even at that distance.
Now comes the question of civilian casualties. While it is definitely or highly advised that these be kept MINIMAL at worst, and would be even better if kept at 0, there may be some on the charts. In this case, we either send full foot-troops from many different countries willing to engage or do nothing at all. This is all assuming they have headquarters in towns and cities with innocent lives.
Now onto the topic of rooting out the countries that actively these terrorist groups. I’m mainly looking at it being HIGHLY possible for North Korea and China, as both are repeatedly absent from UN summits and both have hardly any retaliation within their own ranks, let alone there people. North Korea wouldn’t dare attack with a military as unequipped as theirs, comparably to the US, UK, Russia, and many other countries willing to assist. China much the same, since their military is a joke. Their navy is a almost non-existent, and their Airforce is full of technology that repeatedly fails.
And direct bombing as well as surgical strikes should be kept to a minimum.
Don’t listen to me though, I’m just the guy that reads books like The Art of War and sees flaws in governments and military, as all of them have them. These are merely my thoughts and opinions, should a war break out.
@atalarikt
In all fairness, America WAS the first country to represent such freedom in a profound manner, directly spitting in the face of the King. Does this justify current “Mah freedums” cries? No, but it should be noted that we made a milestone forever changing the fate of the world.
@MorphinBrony
that is full of crap……….. saying Japan don’t bat a eye over the bombing death toll. You should do a little research before making false claims
@Rod Hungwell
Of course it doesn’t add up, it is all a huge fake :\
Do even one of the conspiracy theories add up? Which one does cause so far they all have massive holes in them and would have been unconvered were they real
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don’t start that crap here
Such images are exactly where such issues must be raised as they are usually visited by people who either believe in such propaganda or, on the contrary, who reject it. We won’t see many neutral people here or people who are disinterested and would rather ignore everything you wrote, which means that this is a perfect place to challenge views of people from the opposite camp. Anything else you want to say?
You are just using straw man fallacy right now. I never said that countries having small or no military are perfect, I said that perfect countries should have small or no military, not vice-versa! These are not symmetric or inter-operable >_>
Why do people start using complete bullshit methods when they are presented with something they don’t like instead of actually responding or disproving it? Is it too hard to accept that what you think might be wrong and you just prefer to bastardize what is said until it makes no sense?
@Silent Wing
Now you are just acting mean and as a bully to protect your views instead of actually participating in a conversation or providing proofs. Also 14,a troll, what next? Keep applying more stereotypes to me, I like it :D
I’m giving you examples. Anyway, since you wished.
First off, no logical person with a clear head would come to an American image, one particularly touchy for some, and actively chase it with a one-sided view on things. I really don’t particularly care for your activeness, troll. You’re now ignored.
Don’t feed him. He’s 14, or acts like it (along with many other things I could produce right now but for the sake of him I shall not.), and I don’t feel like explaining to someone that they’re misinformed or otherwise purposeful in their actions of wasting their life concerning the opinions of others for short bursts of pleasure.
Though I could present his location, if HE so desired. I don’t think he will though. Nobody is THAT dumb.
Are you really implying that freedom of speech is THE freedom you are all obsessing about and that it was “invented” in USA? The freedom of speech is a by-product of Internet (invented in USA, yes) and modern era and it is present almost in every country around the world. If that is your definition of freedom and all it has to it, then I am truly sorry for you as you know no true freedom.
Also, I am not a troll, just a person who has an outside view on things as I have been a participant to one of false revolutions started by US and saw with my own two eyes how it is done. It is easy to find other people and sources of information ing all I’ve just said, it’s just that most people never bother to look preferring to trust the official version instead.
By this logic, wouldn’t that make Indonesia and the Micronesian/Polynesian countries perfect? Because you know, Indonesia’s military isn’t that big, and Micronesian/Polynesian countries don’t have a military at all, from what I know.
Internet seems to think that post-USSR countries have no military… let me assure you that it is just a product of US and EU propaganda. They have military comparable to that of Russia and here is only one of demonstrations out of many (if you are willing to look). The fact that they are not willing to play in international spectacles where major world powers play with human lives to achieve their goals doesn’t mean they have no military.
Gootta love how people nowadays compare military as if it was the size of a dick or something. The fact US control freaks are so paranoid that they spend half their budget (that is non-existent budget due to the all-known debt) on military to keep everyone under their foot doesn’t mean they are the best country or right on the matter. Personally I think a perfect country without issues wouldn’t need a large army at all.
First off, almost everything you just noted is subjective to your opinion, as is everyone elses. (That’s a freedom right there, by the way. Your freedom of speech, which gives you the ability to think and say what you want, but this is completely your responsibility.)
Next I’m going to rip apart your idea of a proper government being one under no rule, but still having a ruler. This has been proven to fail many times, purely because it invokes the voice into one person rather into many branches that are made to represent the people.
Freedom is a social construct that is comprised out of sensation. If you feel like you’re able to do what you wish, then you are free. If you feel as if you’re restricted, then you are bound.
Let me give you a simple example; I’m not going to let you walk away with such a warped opinion seemingly based on singular voicing. You have the freedom to tell me you don’t believe freedom is possible, which is fine. I have the freedom to explain to you why it is possible, or at the very least mostly possible. This is because one can feel offended and hurt, struck and routed, just from simple words because their willpower is weak and they fear itting they’re wrong. All of us have been there, done that, and the smart don’t wish to be there again.
Though I could be wasting my time with such a troll. So I will mark you as one in my books.
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/9-reasons-to-question-the-paris-terror-attacks.html
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/01/15-signs-charlie-hebdo-attack-was-false.html
Is this why the government/s has to kill people (9/11, , mind you, I’m not saying did this, they are merely victims but not of ISIL), start and help organized terrorism (Iraq) and start false revolutions that ruin lives of people (Ukraine) to goad everyone into accepting freedom and constitution impeding laws and acts like Patriot, SOAP, cancelling Tor browser (that’s what they are doing right now using as excuse since they failed to completely bring its privacy down even despite trying for years) and so on? Because apparently it is easier to cause international drama and distract attention of people from real problems rather than actually solve these problems. Oh well, this way they can easily steal money that are spent on war expenses so whatever.
In any case, you do know that America is on the first place by the amount of confidential information thefts and spying WORLDWIDE (both Internet and IRL), yes?
Where exactly are your freedoms? Freedom to chose either of retarded president candidates of whom all options are shit? Freedom to own a gun so a looser can go and do a shooting in a school (go google it up, America is also in the first place by terror acts and shootings, especially shootings just for the sake of shootings… they have more shootings than days of in a year), or freedom to own drugs that destroy your life (and also get you in jail since America is #1 in total number of incarcerated people as well as percentage of citizens in jails)?
Where is the freedom you speak of? All I see is tyranny and pretentious farce so that people wouldn’t notice they are just slaves like they used to be and always will be!
And I believe the only reason terrorists chose to attack was because of their reputation, sadly. They wouldn’t dare attack US main soil on foot, and Italy would spark A LOT of religious questioning, being close to Vatican City.
Their next attack will either be on Canada or India. Both of these countries are unprepared and they will get a reaction quite quickly. Both are fairly easy to get to, and both have high populations, meaning a higher chance of inside rebels to assist.
I believe the US needs to band together with other countries and unleash a full attack on these terrorist groups. Have it a secret, only known to the leaders of the countries where these terrorists reside, that we push an attack. I don’t know about you, but a rag-tag team of morons isn’t going to do shit against American, Russian, and British MBTs. If that isn’t negotiable, then we ask for the privilege of launching surgical thermobarics. We only need to get within a mile of their hideouts in order to hit them with the shockwave, which is powerful enough to explode your lungs, even at that distance.
Now comes the question of civilian casualties. While it is definitely or highly advised that these be kept MINIMAL at worst, and would be even better if kept at 0, there may be some on the charts. In this case, we either send full foot-troops from many different countries willing to engage or do nothing at all. This is all assuming they have headquarters in towns and cities with innocent lives.
Now onto the topic of rooting out the countries that actively these terrorist groups. I’m mainly looking at it being HIGHLY possible for North Korea and China, as both are repeatedly absent from UN summits and both have hardly any retaliation within their own ranks, let alone there people. North Korea wouldn’t dare attack with a military as unequipped as theirs, comparably to the US, UK, Russia, and many other countries willing to assist. China much the same, since their military is a joke. Their navy is a almost non-existent, and their Airforce is full of technology that repeatedly fails.
And direct bombing as well as surgical strikes should be kept to a minimum.
Don’t listen to me though, I’m just the guy that reads books like The Art of War and sees flaws in governments and military, as all of them have them. These are merely my thoughts and opinions, should a war break out.
Fair enough.
In all fairness, America WAS the first country to represent such freedom in a profound manner, directly spitting in the face of the King. Does this justify current “Mah freedums” cries? No, but it should be noted that we made a milestone forever changing the fate of the world.
>implying they’re not loudmouthed about their “freedom”
>Implying is a fierce superpower.
and ’Murica are different beasts.
that is full of crap……….. saying Japan don’t bat a eye over the bombing death toll. You should do a little research before making false claims
Do even one of the conspiracy theories add up? Which one does cause so far they all have massive holes in them and would have been unconvered were they real