The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

@Too_Offensive
 
@Turkeynomster
 
A quote of her from a conference in 2011 from the Breitbart link on uc9s CNN page:
 
“Self-identified nerds are often so obsessed with their identity as cultural outcasts that they are willfully [sic] blind to their privilege, and for the sake of relatively-absurd fandoms — space marines, dragons, zombies, endless war simulations — take their myopic and insular attitudes to ‘art’ and ‘culture’ with tunnel-visioned, inflexible, embarrassing seriousness that often leads to homogeneity, racism, sexism and bullying.”

So this isn’t exactly related but I think it shows just how far the rot has really set in in some cases.
 
http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/10/planetside-2-tea-bag-sexual-assault/
 
As a aside I wish to state that I’ve never been a fan of doing that kinda stuff and if I piss anyone off saying this well sorry but I figure most folks who do it actively are kinda assholes but that’s not here or there. Gameplay has been compromised to appease the kinda folks we are fighting with, this should tell you right now why it’s important to microscope your games and who devs them from now on.

@Kenrick_Drake  
I don’t even like tea bagging and I think that’s pathetic.

 
‘Shamergate’…..I think I might start using that.

@silbasa  
But homogeneity is good according the empirical studies of Robert Putnam.  
Now if I were a cynical man I would argue they are trying to reference some kind of boogeyman with referencing homogeneity, like an unconscious reminder of some past evil which stood for homogeneity at all costs.  
Can’t think of any though.
 
If that were the case then they are simply resorting to a scare tactic. And we know they are above that right?

@silbasa  
Yeah, sounds like the book burning type.
 
Nothing makes nerd groups more willing to accept outside influence quite like implications how the rest of society would destroy their escapism from society if given the chance.
 
@Whatevs  
Homogeneity is good for the homogeneous, but less so for those who are not. Knowing that, she simply tries to speak through the perspective of those homogeneity could hurt, although failing at it hard.

@Turkeynomster  
Pointing that out does not defeat the argument for homogeneity.  
In fact it strengthens it since it means the solution is homogeneity for the non-homogenous through peaceful separation or self-relocation

@Whatevs  
You… Do realize what you said could be horribly misinterpreted, yes?

@Darth Sonic  
I do.  
But it is irrelevant as I did gove reference to a group of people who valued homogeneity at any cost.  
Which is why I called saying it as a bad thing in of itself was a scare tactic.

 

 
God damn it:  

@uc9
 
Free shame to the next person to knowingly and blatantly bribe individuals in a petty attempt to make an entire group look bad.

@uc9  
wait… ISN’T THAT AN ANIME AVATAR!?

@Whatevs  
I would argue that it does defeat the argument for homogeneity. You can’t just slice out a part of the group that isn’t doing well to bias the result and claim it works. Not to mention homogeneity breeds weakness since whatever weakness one has, everyone else would have. And in the realm of ideas, it leaves your thoughts unchallenged, you know, echo chambers?

@rogerSnow  
none of that is true, or proven. Just talking points.  
Homogeneity is when more than 90% are the same. Nobody says you take away the heterogenous slice. They simply point out that the homogeneous group usually overperforms.
 
Nor does it mean there is no marketplace of ideas since ideas come from with distant cultures and often through trade.  
This is what Dr. Hans Hermann-Hoppe noted, that homogeneity and self determination for a group bound to a geographic area does not lead to isolationism (unless they just have bad trade which is an independent factor)

@rogerSnow
 
@Whatevs
 
Interesting as the topic is, seems a bit tangential to the thread.

@uc9  
You would think, with all the talks about sexual assault, feminists would believe no means no. But that would mean not all are hypocrites…

Ugh; god damn it:  
Zoe Quinn abusing court system to give a gag order

@uc9  
Wow.
 
Well, it’s a good thing everyone already knows what kind of girl she is. Too little, too late.
 
Also, ripped tongues, etc.

@uc9  
How severe of penalties do you think abusing the court system can carry?  
I told you she’s a monster.

First on topic:  
@uc9
 
Wow. That judge’s behavior. Starting to feel like I need to wear a tinfoil hat. How the fuck? Just, how does she control everyone like this?
 
 
Avoidable and totally off topic tangent:  
@Archonix  
Yeah, tangents happen. I don’t see why it’s a problem unless we completely monopolize the thread. Or was was 157 pages of screencaps and links proving SJW’s are shitheads no enough on topic material?
 
@Whatevs  
“ none of that is true, or proven. Just talking points.”
 
Yeah, not like diversity is a successful/damn near essential survival strategy in everything from business to biology. Not like multiple cultures and ethnicity’s have ever come together to form new, eclectic, wildly successful cultures that combine strengths and cover old blind spots with new perspectives.
 
Nope. Robert Putnam “empirically proved” your value judgement because he observed that areas with mixed ethnicity’s in one nation over a specific time period in history had higher levels of distrust. Surely this is a universal constant and not based on historical context and stage of human societal development on a longer timeline. No siree. Surely nothing was gained, people can never learn, and the highest level humanity should strive for is trust in an unchallenged little bubble. That’s “good”. Not trying to grow or gain a more universal understanding and appreciation for their fellow humans. That’s just silly.
 
What exactly is your point, anyway? It would be better if we all voluntarily segregated ourselves?

So how long till we find out she fucked the judge?

@Frostwolf123  
I give it two days tops.

@rogerSnow  

 
Have you heard of the third wave experiment?

@rogerSnow  
Deflections and platitudes.  
Misunderstandings and talking points.
 
And unrelated. I gave a fraction of my argument. No need to go further.

@uc9  
I wonder what IA, TB, Milo, and Mundanematt are going to say about this?