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@ThrashStrings  
Marginalized people aren’t trying to “turn the tables” and reverse the power imbalance, we just want to be able to exist without all these things holding us back. I need to reiterate that what one side does to another is contextualized by the power (or lack thereof) each side has historically and institutionally. And we’re fighting for equity, which is not the same as equality (Equity; understanding that what each person needs to live and succeed is different based on their circumstances vs. Equality; giving everyone the same regardless of each person’s varying needs.)
 
That aside, historically the fight for civil rights were not won by politeness and good graces. They were won by protests, marches, turmoil, and holding the majority’s profits and way of life hostage until those rights were granted. Think back to the power dynamic at play. When one side has the power to decide the other side’s rights, they can promise those rights conditionally because they have the power to do that, and then just decide not to give it anyway, because they have the power to do that, too! We as the minority don’t have the power to hold them ible for their promises. We can do the song and dance for our entire lives and our rights may never move an inch if the ones in power think it’s more convenient, comfortable, or especially profitable not to give us our rights.

@ThrashStrings  
The important thing is to think about these issues with regards to existing power structures and how those relate to these groups. Frustration and lashing out from marginalized people does not hold the same weight as the group in power continuing to enforce those power dynamics.
 
Case in point black americans have historically and also now continue to face difficulties from the American legal and justice systems. They’re still dealing with the lasting effects of historical suppression. Some of those issues are being actively maintained and continued, and they’re not going to go away unless they’re addressed because there are groups in power who stand to benefit from the continuation of that imbalance in power. Trying to fix these problems also means that the people who stand to benefit from these issues need to be held able, which in this case is white people, who benefit from the suppression of black people whether they actually want to or not, or are aware that they’re even doing it in the first place.
 
The point I’m trying to get at is that is that the idea that both sides are equally as bad is not true, not when each side is on opposite ends of a power imbalance. Insulting a white person is shitty but it’s not perpetuating a history of oppression, and holding a group that’s in power ible is definitely not the same as intolerance. Conversely, racism against a black person draws upon a history of continuing oppression.
 
(Obviously that doesn’t absolve marginalized groups from any wrongdoing whatsoever, but these issues have to be understood in the broader context and not as a strictly interpersonal issue.)

@Backgroundpony  
The LGBT+ spaces I’ve been don’t even let nazis or white supremacists in to begin with, and I don’t think that’s unreasonable given the views you have to hold to be a nazi or white supremacist.