@Selaphiel
8chan is dead. Moment original owner lost it was doomed. End 4chan did not collapse like many on 8chan predicted.
8chan is dead. Moment original owner lost it was doomed. End 4chan did not collapse like many on 8chan predicted.
The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)
Deletion reason: Rule #6
So, genuine question for everyone here?
Do you actually know these ‘SJW’ people you keep talking, or actual leftists in person?
Because neither of them want the things you seem to think they want, leftists (so socialists, communists, anarcho-communists, ect) think Captain Marvel is shitty US Air Force propaganda.
SJWs liked it I guess, but they don’t expliceitly want the things you think are bad over actually good representation and content with some uhhhh, actual writing behind it that isn’t generic trash, they want more stuff like the She-Ra with wholesome messages for kids on recognising abusive parents, that ‘bad guys’ aren’t just bad guys, they’re people too, black and white thinking is bad, great lgbt representation, the new She-Ra is actually pretty great.
Things like Captain Marvel are just kinda bad nothing movies, utterly skippable, hell in the new Avengers she isn’t even relevant, she just kinda appears, then disappears, then appears again, like the issue with her other than being US Air Force propaganda, is that she serves no purpose and has no actual character, she’s a nothing character with a nothing, empty movie.
Anyway my point is all of this batshit stuff you think ‘leftists’ and ‘sjws’ want are just what Neoliberal Capitalists want (if we make shit more diverse, more demographics will buy it, give me money please minorities (and white people too)), more black female trans CEOs and Drone pilots.
Most ‘SJWs’ I personally know are of the socialist/communist variety and hate this shit, I don’t really personally know anyone that thinks or believes any of the conspiracy shit you’re making up, at least not since like 2008 or so when that was in vogue, so clearly it’s just bad neoliberal capitalist media you’re watching and mislabeling.
They just want to funnel more money to rich CEOs by being more inclusive and therefore having people buy shit.
Your examples in your shitty ‘video game journalism’ by ‘anti-sjw’ edgelords usually is one tweet with under 100 likes/retweets that noone cares about lmao, ‘SJWs’ in real life aren’t actually outraged so much, they don’t actually care about most of this shit, they only really tend to care about fucked up video games like that Rape-lay or whatever it was called.
Basically your fake journalists are lying about numbers, no-one but some random kotaku/buzzfeed/vice or whatever meme site you’re using a few twitter randos actually care about this shit, we evil leftist SJWs are mostly focusing on real issues like uhhh, white supremacy causing these right wing mass shooters to, y’know, target jews, hispanics, muslims, ect.
Video games have nothing to do with that shit, if we don’t like video games, we just don’t buy them, like 4-100 people in the world actually are outraged about the things you think they are lmao.
Do you actually know these ‘SJW’ people you keep talking, or actual leftists in person?
Because neither of them want the things you seem to think they want, leftists (so socialists, communists, anarcho-communists, ect) think Captain Marvel is shitty US Air Force propaganda.
SJWs liked it I guess, but they don’t expliceitly want the things you think are bad over actually good representation and content with some uhhhh, actual writing behind it that isn’t generic trash, they want more stuff like the She-Ra with wholesome messages for kids on recognising abusive parents, that ‘bad guys’ aren’t just bad guys, they’re people too, black and white thinking is bad, great lgbt representation, the new She-Ra is actually pretty great.
Things like Captain Marvel are just kinda bad nothing movies, utterly skippable, hell in the new Avengers she isn’t even relevant, she just kinda appears, then disappears, then appears again, like the issue with her other than being US Air Force propaganda, is that she serves no purpose and has no actual character, she’s a nothing character with a nothing, empty movie.
Anyway my point is all of this batshit stuff you think ‘leftists’ and ‘sjws’ want are just what Neoliberal Capitalists want (if we make shit more diverse, more demographics will buy it, give me money please minorities (and white people too)), more black female trans CEOs and Drone pilots.
Most ‘SJWs’ I personally know are of the socialist/communist variety and hate this shit, I don’t really personally know anyone that thinks or believes any of the conspiracy shit you’re making up, at least not since like 2008 or so when that was in vogue, so clearly it’s just bad neoliberal capitalist media you’re watching and mislabeling.
They just want to funnel more money to rich CEOs by being more inclusive and therefore having people buy shit.
Your examples in your shitty ‘video game journalism’ by ‘anti-sjw’ edgelords usually is one tweet with under 100 likes/retweets that noone cares about lmao, ‘SJWs’ in real life aren’t actually outraged so much, they don’t actually care about most of this shit, they only really tend to care about fucked up video games like that Rape-lay or whatever it was called.
Basically your fake journalists are lying about numbers, no-one but some random kotaku/buzzfeed/vice or whatever meme site you’re using a few twitter randos actually care about this shit, we evil leftist SJWs are mostly focusing on real issues like uhhh, white supremacy causing these right wing mass shooters to, y’know, target jews, hispanics, muslims, ect.
Video games have nothing to do with that shit, if we don’t like video games, we just don’t buy them, like 4-100 people in the world actually are outraged about the things you think they are lmao.
@dissociativity
To answer your initial question, no, I probably don’t know anyoneso far gone that I could call a Sjw on a personal level.
And the rest would probably be reassuring if the corps were not so desperate for them.
To answer your initial question, no, I probably don’t know anyone
And the rest would probably be reassuring if the corps were not so desperate for them.
@PonyPon
I’ve just sorta over seeing all of this ‘anti-sjw’ outrage about things…. Noone actually thinks or believes barring a few randos on twitter maybe or a few commenters on a forum?
The anti-SJW outrage actually makes these voices louder than they ever would be if they weren’t cherry picked for youtube views and patreon bux.
I’ve just sorta over seeing all of this ‘anti-sjw’ outrage about things…. Noone actually thinks or believes barring a few randos on twitter maybe or a few commenters on a forum?
The anti-SJW outrage actually makes these voices louder than they ever would be if they weren’t cherry picked for youtube views and patreon bux.
@dissociativity
Believe me, I wish it were still that easy to dissmiss.
Believe me, I wish it were still that easy to dissmiss.
Quick news update; SupMatto had a lot of videos flagged under copyright and apparently had private investigators visit his home. They were sent by the Chinese company Take-Two aka the main investor for the Borderlands video game company 2K.
@Scrabbleman
See, it’s those greedy capitalists that will stop at nothing to continue making money by underpaying and overworking it’s employees and other unethical practices that’s the problem, not >muh sjws
Let’s not forget deliberately taking advantage of how addictive gambling is.
See, it’s those greedy capitalists that will stop at nothing to continue making money by underpaying and overworking it’s employees and other unethical practices that’s the problem, not >muh sjws
Let’s not forget deliberately taking advantage of how addictive gambling is.
So, genuine question for everyone here?
Do you actually know these ‘SJW’ people you keep talking, or actual leftists in person?
Because neither of them want the things you seem to think they want, leftists (so socialists, communists, anarcho-communists, ect) think Captain Marvel is shitty US Air Force propaganda.
SJWs liked it I guess, but they don’t expliceitly want the things you think are bad over actually good representation and content with some uhhhh, actual writing behind it that isn’t generic trash, they want more stuff like the She-Ra with wholesome messages for kids on recognising abusive parents, that ‘bad guys’ aren’t just bad guys, they’re people too, black and white thinking is bad, great lgbt representation, the new She-Ra is actually pretty great.Things like Captain Marvel are just kinda bad nothing movies, utterly skippable, hell in the new Avengers she isn’t even relevant, she just kinda appears, then disappears, then appears again, like the issue with her other than being US Air Force propaganda, is that she serves no purpose and has no actual character, she’s a nothing character with a nothing, empty movie.Anyway my point is all of this batshit stuff you think ‘leftists’ and ‘sjws’ want are just what Neoliberal Capitalists want (if we make shit more diverse, more demographics will buy it, give me money please minorities (and white people too)), more black female trans CEOs and Drone pilots.Most ‘SJWs’ I personally know are of the socialist/communist variety and hate this shit, I don’t really personally know anyone that thinks or believes any of the conspiracy shit you’re making up, at least not since like 2008 or so when that was in vogue, so clearly it’s just bad neoliberal capitalist media you’re watching and mislabeling.They just want to funnel more money to rich CEOs by being more inclusive and therefore having people buy shit.
Your examples in your shitty ‘video game journalism’ by ‘anti-sjw’ edgelords usually is one tweet with under 100 likes/retweets that noone cares about lmao, ‘SJWs’ in real life aren’t actually outraged so much, they don’t actually care about most of this shit, they only really tend to care about fucked up video games like that Rape-lay or whatever it was called.Basically your fake journalists are lying about numbers, no-one but some random kotaku/buzzfeed/vice or whatever meme site you’re using a few twitter randos actually care about this shit, we evil leftist SJWs are mostly focusing on real issues like uhhh, white supremacy causing these right wing mass shooters to, y’know, target jews, hispanics, muslims, ect.Video games have nothing to do with that shit, if we don’t like video games, we just don’t buy them, like 4-100 people in the world actually are outraged about the things you think they are lmao.
You are playing damage control for horrible people by pretending they don’t exist and their critics are just misinformed.
It’s not us that’s ignorant here, it’s you. Your tone isn’t conducive to an intelligent discussion, it’s dishonest.
You’ve never met a radical SJW, I’ve met plenty. You’ve never seen a video of a radical SJW get applauded by “good” feminists, I’ve seen plenty.
Thank you for itting that you know absolutely nothing about the topic of discussion here, but would it kill you to politely ask for more information on the topic of discussion instead of claiming we’re all just imagining the leftist problem?
If you’d like, I can show you a subreddit full of evidence of SJWs behaving badly: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/
And here’s just a little something I find funny. https://i.redd.it/pfq096lpp8hy.jpg
@dissociativity
@Scrabbleman
See, it’s those greedy capitalists that will stop at nothing to continue making money by underpaying and overworking it’s employees and other unethical practices that’s the problem, not >muh sjwsLet’s not forget deliberately taking advantage of how addictive gambling is.
…Oh.
That explains that, then.
Look, I don’t want to start a fight, but you do and that’s why you came in here yelling “EVERYONE HERE IS WRONG BECAUSE SJWS DON’T EXIST, COMMUNISM RUUULES!”. You’re dishonestly playing damage control for ideologues who have ruined lives and a faulty ideology that killed more people than Nazism. Please don’t be like this.
@dissociativity
Except this shit is a direct result of SJW mindset causing the game devs to think they are above reproach. Why else would they shit on their fans for criticizing them and calling them every -ist in the book? Stop being pedantic and start looking at the bigger picture. This shit didn’t start until game “journalists” started to suck the cock of developers who, in return, started to piss and shit all over their fanbases who criticized them for making shit games and being corrupt. Now take a guess on what side of the political spectrum the games “journalists” fell on? You get three guesses and the last two don’t count.
Except this shit is a direct result of SJW mindset causing the game devs to think they are above reproach. Why else would they shit on their fans for criticizing them and calling them every -ist in the book? Stop being pedantic and start looking at the bigger picture. This shit didn’t start until game “journalists” started to suck the cock of developers who, in return, started to piss and shit all over their fanbases who criticized them for making shit games and being corrupt. Now take a guess on what side of the political spectrum the games “journalists” fell on? You get three guesses and the last two don’t count.
@Ainz Ooal Gown
They’re liberals, liberalism is a centrist ideology at most.
Hell Bernie is barely left, he’s mild for Europe and the rest of the west, Americans don’t understand how politics actually work in real life.
I don’t see any leftists (people who are anti-capitalist) praising those good boy CEOs that are clearly right and just and do nothing wrong :’ )
They’re liberals, liberalism is a centrist ideology at most.
Hell Bernie is barely left, he’s mild for Europe and the rest of the west, Americans don’t understand how politics actually work in real life.
I don’t see any leftists (people who are anti-capitalist) praising those good boy CEOs that are clearly right and just and do nothing wrong :’ )
@dissociativity
Well, it’s good for someone to ask the question every now and again. If we’re all just fighting windmills here, we’re not that much better than those fighting all of the misogynistic gamers.
Speaking for myself, I’m not concerned about scale. If a journalist puts out a shitty article trying to twist reality to fit a narrative, it’s a big deal if it turns out that a large group of journalists are also doing the same thing. But regardless, the shitty article is still bad, and it’s bad for the same reasons no matter how many people are behind it. If there’s only 100 people slandering straight white males, it’s still valuable to call them out on that.
The new wave of hatred, directed at those who are perceived as non-oppressed groups, do not have a long history of society trying to correct this behaviour. Nazis have been a highly hated group for a very long time, and very few have ever come to the defence of the Nazi ideology. The idea that Nazis are on the verge of a comeback due to normalisation or whatever because people are no longer decrying Nazis every time they’re mentioned is a ludicrous one. On the other hand, straight people have not had whole movements dedicated to their acceptance, so when straight people come under attack, something has to be said back, since nothing has been said back before.
How much an audience influences the media they consume is something that’s not definitively known. But, there are always people who are worried that it might happen, so try to silence all criticism against the media. Go to any forum thread about an anime for an example. I’m one of those people who doesn’t like their media to change, but I refuse to silence others with differing opinions, and would rather debate them instead. If I can’t prove my point, then my point is weak and deserves to be defeated, even if I still hold that point, and it could lead to changes that I don’t want.
It’s clear that in gaming, and in some other media, that there is a very SJW (or whatever you want to call it) angle being pushed, and many fear that it will lead to changes in the medium. The problem I personally have is how one-sided it all is. If gaming journalism wants games to be made a certain way, they can say it and see what happens. But they don’t just do that. They use morality to try and strengthen their own position, and weaken the positions of those who disagree, and that’s intellectually dishonest. As a news group gaming journalists have a lot of exposure, and are leveraging that to get their way, and I heavily disagree with it.
Despite all that, I actually agree with you that a lot of all this is capitalistically motivated; I believe that one of the main pushes for gaming journalists to turn on gamers is that they suck at their jobs and gamers are able to call them out on it, and since gamers do the same to companies that suck at their jobs, there’s a strong incentive to remove intellectualism from gaming. Journalists want to keep their jobs and push their narratives, and game companies want people to consume regardless of quality. It works for everybody except those that care about the medium.
The last thing I want to say is that, despite the rather grandiose things that tend to get said in here, the important thing is to challenge the viewpoints of others to see if they hold up. A lot of obviously wrong tripe gets posted here, and we can all laugh and/or get angry at it, but it all comes from a desire to see the truth come out. That, or owning the libtards, I’m not going to speak for everyone here.
Well, it’s good for someone to ask the question every now and again. If we’re all just fighting windmills here, we’re not that much better than those fighting all of the misogynistic gamers.
Speaking for myself, I’m not concerned about scale. If a journalist puts out a shitty article trying to twist reality to fit a narrative, it’s a big deal if it turns out that a large group of journalists are also doing the same thing. But regardless, the shitty article is still bad, and it’s bad for the same reasons no matter how many people are behind it. If there’s only 100 people slandering straight white males, it’s still valuable to call them out on that.
The new wave of hatred, directed at those who are perceived as non-oppressed groups, do not have a long history of society trying to correct this behaviour. Nazis have been a highly hated group for a very long time, and very few have ever come to the defence of the Nazi ideology. The idea that Nazis are on the verge of a comeback due to normalisation or whatever because people are no longer decrying Nazis every time they’re mentioned is a ludicrous one. On the other hand, straight people have not had whole movements dedicated to their acceptance, so when straight people come under attack, something has to be said back, since nothing has been said back before.
How much an audience influences the media they consume is something that’s not definitively known. But, there are always people who are worried that it might happen, so try to silence all criticism against the media. Go to any forum thread about an anime for an example. I’m one of those people who doesn’t like their media to change, but I refuse to silence others with differing opinions, and would rather debate them instead. If I can’t prove my point, then my point is weak and deserves to be defeated, even if I still hold that point, and it could lead to changes that I don’t want.
It’s clear that in gaming, and in some other media, that there is a very SJW (or whatever you want to call it) angle being pushed, and many fear that it will lead to changes in the medium. The problem I personally have is how one-sided it all is. If gaming journalism wants games to be made a certain way, they can say it and see what happens. But they don’t just do that. They use morality to try and strengthen their own position, and weaken the positions of those who disagree, and that’s intellectually dishonest. As a news group gaming journalists have a lot of exposure, and are leveraging that to get their way, and I heavily disagree with it.
Despite all that, I actually agree with you that a lot of all this is capitalistically motivated; I believe that one of the main pushes for gaming journalists to turn on gamers is that they suck at their jobs and gamers are able to call them out on it, and since gamers do the same to companies that suck at their jobs, there’s a strong incentive to remove intellectualism from gaming. Journalists want to keep their jobs and push their narratives, and game companies want people to consume regardless of quality. It works for everybody except those that care about the medium.
The last thing I want to say is that, despite the rather grandiose things that tend to get said in here, the important thing is to challenge the viewpoints of others to see if they hold up. A lot of obviously wrong tripe gets posted here, and we can all laugh and/or get angry at it, but it all comes from a desire to see the truth come out. That, or owning the libtards, I’m not going to speak for everyone here.
@Plain Pony
I don’t know how capitalistically motivated it is to tell people not to buy a product who are concerned it will be a revisionist take, then make snide comments about the same people and except a large sale- Or allowing those obviously not in favor of the genre or product in a whole to come in and make decisions on how it should go. Far as I know that has turned out well, which begs the question; What was it for?
Also Makes me wonder on their thought on Battle Angel: Alita.
I don’t know how capitalistically motivated it is to tell people not to buy a product who are concerned it will be a revisionist take, then make snide comments about the same people and except a large sale- Or allowing those obviously not in favor of the genre or product in a whole to come in and make decisions on how it should go. Far as I know that has turned out well, which begs the question; What was it for?
Also Makes me wonder on their thought on Battle Angel: Alita.
@dissociativity
Woah there, I’m centrist (or at least, the few people here that calls himself one). I can tell when someone is left or right. And the so-called “liberals” are rarely centrist.
Woah there, I’m centrist (or at least, the few people here that calls himself one). I can tell when someone is left or right. And the so-called “liberals” are rarely centrist.
@Scrabbleman
Are these liberals you speak of anti-capitalist? IF so, they’re not liberals, they’re socialists.
IF they’re for capitalism being made less shit and having policies like nordic countries instead of just getting rid of capitalism, they’re social democrats, else they’re probably centrists.
Centrist in the US usually means center-right.
Are these liberals you speak of anti-capitalist? IF so, they’re not liberals, they’re socialists.
IF they’re for capitalism being made less shit and having policies like nordic countries instead of just getting rid of capitalism, they’re social democrats, else they’re probably centrists.
Centrist in the US usually means center-right.
@dissociativity
See this shit right here is what is polarizing the political landscape and INFECTING entertainment. Newsflash! Entertainment is supposed to be an escape from real life NOT a fucking lecture shouted from people who want to espouse their beliefs and push them in our faces. You push propaganda and are surprised at the backlash its receiving? There is a reason that a large portion of movies and games are “getting woke, going broke” and its because they are pushing an agenda and propaganda that nobody wants. Comics are dying, and once the MCU pushes the shit that is femthor and Iron Heart down our throats? They will fall as well. The only entertainment that is worth consuming is the past entertainment before SJWs infected everything.
See this shit right here is what is polarizing the political landscape and INFECTING entertainment. Newsflash! Entertainment is supposed to be an escape from real life NOT a fucking lecture shouted from people who want to espouse their beliefs and push them in our faces. You push propaganda and are surprised at the backlash its receiving? There is a reason that a large portion of movies and games are “getting woke, going broke” and its because they are pushing an agenda and propaganda that nobody wants. Comics are dying, and once the MCU pushes the shit that is femthor and Iron Heart down our throats? They will fall as well. The only entertainment that is worth consuming is the past entertainment before SJWs infected everything.
@Ainz Ooal Gown & @SilverStarApple7
So if someone isn’t anti-leftist, or disagrees with what you are accusing people who are centrist or on the left of doing, then it’s cowardly, ignorant, polarizing, damage-control propaganda, and you want no part of it?
That seems to be where you’re both coming from, just making lists of things you don’t like and then attributing them to “the left”, even when it’s conservatives who are in power who doing some of the things you’re rallying against.
For example, is it ok when conservatives or of the right wing shut down science or research? Or does their doing that automatically make them “the left” in your head?
So if someone isn’t anti-leftist, or disagrees with what you are accusing people who are centrist or on the left of doing, then it’s cowardly, ignorant, polarizing, damage-control propaganda, and you want no part of it?
That seems to be where you’re both coming from, just making lists of things you don’t like and then attributing them to “the left”, even when it’s conservatives who are in power who doing some of the things you’re rallying against.
For example, is it ok when conservatives or of the right wing shut down science or research? Or does their doing that automatically make them “the left” in your head?
@Derpy Whooves
We are talking about entertainment i.e. Video games, comics, and movies that have been filled with far left dogma to the point that it is causing franchises that have been around for more than 40+ years to die. Star Wars, DC and Marvel Comics, video games that push unhistorical shit in a game they claim is supposed to have historical accuracy. We are not talking about politics in general. We are talking about how entertainment has been infected with ideologues that have effectively killed beloved franchises.
We are talking about entertainment i.e. Video games, comics, and movies that have been filled with far left dogma to the point that it is causing franchises that have been around for more than 40+ years to die. Star Wars, DC and Marvel Comics, video games that push unhistorical shit in a game they claim is supposed to have historical accuracy. We are not talking about politics in general. We are talking about how entertainment has been infected with ideologues that have effectively killed beloved franchises.
@Derpy Whooves
As an example of this? FemThor was HATED to the point that there were people revolting against the fact that Jane took the name, NOT title, but the actual name of an established character. Iron Heart is not a hero by any stretch of the imagination since she is borderline sociopathic and is selfish to boot. She is a villain in all but name. And that is not even getting into what happened to Captain Marvel and her dictatorial nightmare that killed more heroes than villains and got her vilified for being a ruthless dictator. There is speculation that Marvel and DC wont be around in 5 or so years because of this bullshit they have pushed.
As for video games? Well Game Devs shitting on their fanbases wont do them any favors. The Mass Effect franchise is effectively dead because they got woke and went broke. Other franchises have died because of this far left dogma infecting what were once good franchises that sold millions of units.
And finally movies. Ghostbusters 2016 ring any bells? What about men in black international? Star Wars is not doing so hot either. And as for MCU an DCU? If they push this shit from failed comics storylines they will regret it when their movies bomb.
As an example of this? FemThor was HATED to the point that there were people revolting against the fact that Jane took the name, NOT title, but the actual name of an established character. Iron Heart is not a hero by any stretch of the imagination since she is borderline sociopathic and is selfish to boot. She is a villain in all but name. And that is not even getting into what happened to Captain Marvel and her dictatorial nightmare that killed more heroes than villains and got her vilified for being a ruthless dictator. There is speculation that Marvel and DC wont be around in 5 or so years because of this bullshit they have pushed.
As for video games? Well Game Devs shitting on their fanbases wont do them any favors. The Mass Effect franchise is effectively dead because they got woke and went broke. Other franchises have died because of this far left dogma infecting what were once good franchises that sold millions of units.
And finally movies. Ghostbusters 2016 ring any bells? What about men in black international? Star Wars is not doing so hot either. And as for MCU an DCU? If they push this shit from failed comics storylines they will regret it when their movies bomb.
lol
@The Frowning Pony
what?
what?
@Ainz Ooal Gown
I forgot this thread existed. Seems it’s more of a politics thread than the politics thread.
I forgot this thread existed. Seems it’s more of a politics thread than the politics thread.
@The Frowning Pony
How? We are talking about gamergate and various things pertaining to the franchises regarding them. Including comics and movies. Besides the politics thread is hell incarnate. As far as I am concerned its a far left echochamber that doesn’t even allow for wrongthink in that thread.
How? We are talking about gamergate and various things pertaining to the franchises regarding them. Including comics and movies. Besides the politics thread is hell incarnate. As far as I am concerned its a far left echochamber that doesn’t even allow for wrongthink in that thread.
@Cyborg_pony
The capitalism angle can be explained in a few steps:
1: Journalists report news, and that news is fact checked by people who know that news
2: Journalists who consistently report well get a reputation for being trustworthy
3: Trustworthy journalists become more popular, and more powerful
An honest journalist will stop there. This is where gaming journalism went:
4: Game producers realise how powerful game journalists are for marketing, and try to appeal to them
5: Game journalists accept, and get paid to shill
6: Journalistic integrity rears its ugly head when the games suck. Some tell the truth and get fired. Others lie and get called out
7: Journalism grows a hatred for their audience that got them to where they were when they stop doing their jobs
8: Bad press strains the link between journalists and game producers, and game producers start to threaten the journalist’s paychecks
Game journalists got stuck, where their dishonesty both lessened their audience, and made their shilling benefits more difficult to obtain. This damage to their bottom line is one of the things that motivated them turning on gamers. Since then, journalists realised that they actually have the real power in their relationship with gaming companies, since despite all of the dishonesty, it hurt gaming companies as well, and those companies need the journalists to help their reputation. And game journalists are leveraging this power to try and affect changes in the industry.
Even if you don’t believe that game journalists got paid for good press, it’s undeniable that they do share a relationship, and it’s very easy to abuse that relationship, even if it’s not as simple as ‘pay us or we will trash your product’. And right now, it’s ‘appeal to our politics or we will trash your product’.
The capitalism angle can be explained in a few steps:
1: Journalists report news, and that news is fact checked by people who know that news
2: Journalists who consistently report well get a reputation for being trustworthy
3: Trustworthy journalists become more popular, and more powerful
An honest journalist will stop there. This is where gaming journalism went:
4: Game producers realise how powerful game journalists are for marketing, and try to appeal to them
5: Game journalists accept, and get paid to shill
6: Journalistic integrity rears its ugly head when the games suck. Some tell the truth and get fired. Others lie and get called out
7: Journalism grows a hatred for their audience that got them to where they were when they stop doing their jobs
8: Bad press strains the link between journalists and game producers, and game producers start to threaten the journalist’s paychecks
Game journalists got stuck, where their dishonesty both lessened their audience, and made their shilling benefits more difficult to obtain. This damage to their bottom line is one of the things that motivated them turning on gamers. Since then, journalists realised that they actually have the real power in their relationship with gaming companies, since despite all of the dishonesty, it hurt gaming companies as well, and those companies need the journalists to help their reputation. And game journalists are leveraging this power to try and affect changes in the industry.
Even if you don’t believe that game journalists got paid for good press, it’s undeniable that they do share a relationship, and it’s very easy to abuse that relationship, even if it’s not as simple as ‘pay us or we will trash your product’. And right now, it’s ‘appeal to our politics or we will trash your product’.
@Plain Pony
What happens when multiple AAA companies go bankrupt because of that bullshit? What then?
What happens when multiple AAA companies go bankrupt because of that bullshit? What then?
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